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Weedle McHairybug

aka Eric Otness

  • I live in Dunwoody, Georgia
  • I was born on February 14
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  • Hello friend. It's been a long time since we talked. How are you today. On this Easter Egg Sunday. I'm doing fine. I'm still here just haven't been active for many years. Lol

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  • I thought it was a great game and I prefer Sokolov surviving. My only complaint is we never find out who the deviously cunning strategist is. What I hate is how Kojima pretends the game never happens. He could have at least mentioned the game's events in MGSV's timeline but he didn't. At least with Rising, one could argue that he decided Big Boss's death was the best moment to end the series with. Unlike presidential candidates, I'm no master at debates so I'm not going to try.

    In any case, it's pretty obvious that the administrators think Portable Ops is not canon though for some reason they are uncomfortable with admitting that. I wish Kojima wouldn't be so vague.

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    • Honestly, trying to talk about canon in this series is pointless thanks to Kojima constantly insisting on making a lot of retcons, several of which were completely pointless. Heck, a few times, MGSV just came across as non-canon despite being billed as the ending of the series (especially when the Truth ending alone, not to mention the Truth tapes and Big Boss's implied involvement in supplying them to Venom) basically destroyed whatever little consistency was left in the series, all to reuse the MGS2's plot twist involving Raiden in an even less necessary manner. In fact, to be honest, I'm not even sure if Hideo Kojima or George Lucas was worse regarding maintaining continuity (they both seem to not be fond of consistency or truth).

      And yeah, I liked Portable Ops myself (it actually is tied with Snake Eater as my personal best received Metal Gear game, partly because those two games, unlike most other games in the series, yes, even including MGS1, at least TRIES to paint America in a good light rather than outright demonizing it to the extent that even terrorists are painted as beatified saints by comparison. That, and that game actually TRIES to adhere to continuity. Sure, it retcons Gray Fox's backstory a bit, but compared to the massive warping that Kazuhira Miller's character got in Peace Walker and especially MGSV, Gray Fox got very minimal changes by comparison.). I certainly liked it a LOT better than Peace Walker, to be honest (ironically, that game kind of DID resolve the whole deviously cunning strategist angle based on what Hot Coldman said to Big Boss upon formally meeting him face to face. In fact, Peace Walker had me lose all respect for Kojima especially after he completely failed to depict any negatives about Che Guevara [and it's not like he couldn't find anything, either: He could go for the London Daily Worker's Cuban Missile Crisis special or even go onto youtube and find his speech openly admitting he executes class enemies to the United Nations.], even had my fondness for Big Boss and Miller die rapidly thanks to being reduced to little more than cheerleaders for such garbage in that game.).

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    • Yeah, Kojima is clearly a far-left guy like most of Hollywood. They support domestic terrorists like Assata Shakur and lie about killers like Cyntoia Brown (though I didn't oppose her sentence commutation because of her age at the time of the crime). At least Kojima hasn't shown signs of Trump Derangement Syndrome like the wackos who tried to influence the Electoral College. I don't like Trump but I never thought he was a Manchurian candidate. That was just crazy. And for the record, I'm a centrist. I didn't vote for Trump but I'm fine with him being our President.

      Anyway, I agree that Hot Coldman is the strategist. As for Portable Ops and Rising, at the very least, the games are spin-offs like the Resident Evil Survivor games. The side ops are definitely non-canon (with the exception of the tapes and background info on the base) due to the term "pseudo-historical" being used in the side ops and Survive.

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    • GekkoGTA wrote: Yeah, Kojima is clearly a far-left guy like most of Hollywood. They support domestic terrorists like Assata Shakur and lie about killers like Cyntoia Brown (though I didn't oppose her sentence commutation because of her age at the time of the crime). At least Kojima hasn't shown signs of Trump Derangement Syndrome like the wackos who tried to influence the Electoral College. I don't like Trump but I never thought he was a Manchurian candidate. That was just crazy. And for the record, I'm a centrist. I didn't vote for Trump but I'm fine with him being our President.

      Anyway, I agree that Hot Coldman is the strategist. As for Portable Ops and Rising, at the very least, the games are spin-offs like the Resident Evil Survivor games. The side ops are definitely non-canon (with the exception of the tapes and background info on the base) due to the term "pseudo-historical" being used in the side ops and Survive.

      Well, he hasn't directly gone after Trump, I'll give you that. I do suspect he has TDS thanks to his remark to Rolling Stone magazine about how he "fears the rise of the right-wing" in America, however. And honestly, considering he knew enough about the Katyn Forest massacre to actually give it a nod in Snake Eater (which is not something our left-wing media establishment even back then, let alone today, is willing to acknowledge, let alone that the Soviets were responsible), or heck, him accurately stating that even before the Cuban Missile Crisis, we were already planning on getting rid of the missile silos in Turkey thanks to their being rendered obsolete via nuclear subs, having him give unobjective praise to Che Guevara via various characters was a massive disappointment (and I actually have personal outrage over that bit because he didn't even bother to list that he was a bad guy, even implied in some of the tapes that he had been a Christian minister, and only found out about his more vile nature when reading the Politically Incorrect Guides. As I hadn't heard of Che before that game, I had no prior knowledge of his horrible acts, and... well, I dislike being tricked, more or less. That's also the reason I root for the Galactic Empire since 2016 instead of the Rebel Alliance in Star Wars, because George Lucas based the Empire on the same sources that Kojima based the Patriots on, and Lucas also based the Rebels, not just the Ewoks, on the Vietcong.). Heck, he might arguably be even further to the left than most of Hollywood, since he claimed in the Guardian around the time of Ground Zeroes' release that he felt Hollywood didn't do enough to question America's role in the world (and considering most hollywoood films as of late generally have been anti-American, that seems to indicate they're patriotic compared to him), and inferred something similar in his grand game plan for MGS2.

      And yeah, Trump definitely can't have been a Manchurian candidate. If anything, Hillary Clinton was closer to that. I voted for Trump myself, though he wasn't my first choice (neither was Ted Cruz for that matter. Actually, my first choice was Ben Carson). I was hesitant to back him due to implying in one of his speeches that he had no intention of ending Roe v. Wade, and ultimately decided to do so after he chose Mike Pence as his VP (Ending Roe v. Wade is a bit of a dealbreaker for me regarding candidate choices).

      And yeah, Survive's pretty clearly non-canon as well (if even the guy who did Metal Gear Rising, who indicated it was canon, says that Survive is non-canon, it's pretty clearly non-canon). The pseudo-historical bits are a bit in the gray area though, thanks largely to not just the background info of the base and the tapes, but also the fact that some of the soldiers you rescue in those missions return in The Phantom Pain with Miller directly referencing MSF's acquisition of them. Though personally, I actually thought Survive had a far better story than MGSV did.

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  • I accidentally deleted the Ocelot page and now my wi-fi is so slow that it won't let me undo my edit. Thanks!

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  • ....without one. I have no idea why Wikia truncated the last words. The second ending in Peace Walker might support your statement, BUT, however, Metal Gear Solid V is the ultimatum to contradict and retcon anything that Peace Walker mentioned, since it comes afterwards and is directly tied to Peace Walker.

    If the souvenir image of Big Boss with MSF shows him without a bandana in 1974, it clearly shows that Big Boss does NOT wear any bandanas after throwing his in the lake, contradicting and retconning Peace Walker's second ending by a complete stretch, thus, rendering your statement invalid. There is no bandana in the photograph, and you cannot refute this.

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    • PomanX wrote:

      Weedle McHairybug wrote:
      Maybe, but they still included the bandana on him during the graphic novel scenes where he confronted Paz. And besides, does it ever specifically state WHEN that photograph was taken (BESIDES 1974, I mean)? For all we know, that photo occurred AFTER the whole situation with Paz and ZEKE.

      December 5th, 1974. Sure, the graphical novels include the bandana in the Peace Walker incident, but there is no reason for why that is made explicit in the novels that explain your hypothesis in an explicit manner. Kojima specifically states that Big Boss throws out the bandana, never mentions anything about wearing a "second" one.

      True, but he also never specifically states how he even got that bandana in what chronologically occurred AFTER that chapter (nor, for that matter, did he ever explain why Snake still had a scar on his chest despite using it to escape Strangelove). And he never specifically states WHEN Paz's rebellion occurred, either (could just as easily have been December 4, for all we know. They could have at least dropped a date for that one).

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    • Which is what I exactly said. My point is that the appearance of the bandana and the chain "scar" in the Paz rebellion in the novels simply going unexplained is a very starking odd juxtaposition and it is likely that both were only included in those chapters for familiarity reasons to audiences playing Peace Walker and expecting Peace Walker content.

      It is better off to assume this juxtaposition of sorts as a trivia statement opens up for possible debate instead of making it fact based off assumptions, when you have two sources that depict similar time periods (late 1974, post-event that Big Boss throws out The Boss' bandana) that directly contrast each other. The photograph seems to be way more believable, in my opinion.
      Contrast

      Contradictory retcons?

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  • Would it be possible to change the reference to "their" instead of "His" on the Captain's page to keep it gender neutral?

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  • Hey Weedle, you've been a contributor to the Wiki for a while now. Isn't it time you chose an avatar by now? You can pick something random, doesn't matter, it just adds a bit of personality to your user profile (better than the anonymous default pic anyway). http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Avatars

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  • Hey, I transcribed the Japanese text from the book page screenshot:

    DPKsmYVV4AEIGXV

    新川・AI兵器は激しい動によって多大な慣性がかるので人が乗りこめないんですが、メタルギアZEKEはコツクピットに水をを満たすことで慣性による衝撃を吸收している、という設定です。もともとは、「メタルギアZEKEに搭乗するパスは水着でH型ハーネスを装備した姿にしたい」と提案したときに、監督から「水着になる理由がほしい」と言われたのを受けて、このような仕様になりました。

    Shinkawa proposed the inertial compensation idea to explain the flooded cockpit and Paz's underwater gear. However, I'm not sure whether this was in response to Kojima's specification for her to be in a bathing suit, or whether it was originally Shinkawa's idea and Kojima wanted some justification for it. Feel free to translate it yourself if you have the time.

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    • As soon as I actually have mastery of Japanese (especially Kanji), I'll make an effort to translate it.

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    • Weedle McHairybug wrote: As soon as I actually have mastery of Japanese (especially Kanji), I'll make an effort to translate it.

      You don't need mastery to make a rough attempt. I just use Google Translate most of the time as it has a tool for drawing the characters, but like I said in my conclusion above, it wasn't perfectly clear.

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