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It starts with this little tidbit seen in the timeline at the end of Ground Zeroes:
This site exists in real life. It’s called Vastrap.
• Some context: South Africa’s nuclear program only existed to basically strongarm the United States into resolving their conflicts with Eastern (Communist) Bloc nations; primarily, in the event the Border War in Namibia spilled over into South Africa proper. Despite never intending to actually use their nukes, they had a purpose. Without a site to develop and test them, and with the international condemnation that came with the 1979 Vela Incident, South Africa was between a rock and a hard place.
• Enter Skull Face and XOF.
Sometime following Vela, Skull Face takes advantage of the situation by offering a deal with the government: allow XOF, under the guise of “South African Natural Resources,” to occupy Vastrap and use it to develop and test their parasite research, in exchange for acting as the country’s anticommunist deterrent and apartheid enforcer. Despite being a signatory of the 1975 Biological Weapons Convention, South Africa was desperate for a deterrent, and agreed.
• This status quo would remain in place until Skull Face’s death in 1984. With it, XOF would rapidly lose their grip on Afghanistan and Central Africa. Vastrap would become their new HQ, a hideout to lay low. The soldiers seen ambushing Eli in the cut Mission 51 would have been deployed from Vastrap.
According to my theorizing, Chapter 3 of MGSV would’ve shown how Diamond Dogs would become Outer Heaven.
• The real Big Boss relays intel to Ocelot about XOF’s Vastrap hideout, and also that he (Ishmael) forged a new deal with South Africa to have Diamond Dogs wipe XOF out, capture the desert test site for themselves, and take over their contract. So, Diamond Dogs launches a full-scale invasion and succeeds. When clearing the underground tunnels, which XOF would have expanded greatly, Venom and Ocelot discover that XOF hired a new scientist to replace Huey: Dr. Drago Pettrovich Mandar.
He was being forced to create a new Metal Gear to replace Sahelanthropus - one far simpler and cheaper to construct, use, and maintain. Intrigued by this, and knowing Sally was a paper tiger at best and a liability at worst, Venom and Ocelot agree to have Madnar continue his work under them, with full access to Huey’s old lab and everything he left behind when he was kicked out.
• Under orders from “Ishmael,” Vastrap becomes the new Mother Base of Diamond Dogs - Outer Heaven.
Meanwhile, the Seychelles facility is relegated to being just a FOB, with its important facilities and assets moved to the mainland. Kaz Miller is infuriated by this, seeing as he raised up DD from basically nothing and now everything he built up was just being tossed aside; he eventually leaves for early retirement.
• Once settled in, a cover story is published to the world about Big Boss supposedly retiring from mercenary work to rejoin FOXHOUND. Ocelot departs to help Big Boss in this endeavor and also round up highly skilled mercenaries to act as “Ahab’s” right-hand men. Venom takes a break from being a body double, and is now just himself, though he hides from public eye since he might need to take up the mantle again in the future…
• Outer Heaven quickly becomes a force to be reckoned with. After rescuing a local architectural engineer named Kyle Schneider from rogue XOF remnants, they have him lead the efforts to expand the place into a true fortress.
• Madnar reverse-engineers Huey’s Walker Gear concept, making it much bigger, with a closed cockpit, and nuclear-equipped. TX-55 is born.
Note the vague similarities to Walker Gear, such as the head shape.
• Dr. Madnar proposes an idea to use special robotic surgical instruments, combined with prototype nanomachine injections, to conduct an operation to finally remove Venom Snake’s shrapnel horn without causing a brain hemorrhage. Venom agrees to it, and it is a success.
Note: this image was supposedly extracted from MGSV’s files, showing an aged Venom Snake without the horn. You can faintly see a scar on the forehead where it would be.
But the nanomachines are early prototypes, with side effects not being immediately clear. They end up manifesting in “Ahab’s” personality doing a complete 180; he becomes sadistic and downright evil, embracing his public persona as a “demon.” Madnar and Schneider grow to dislike working under him. Venom begins concealing his face by wearing a devilish masquerade mask with a single horn where the shrapnel used to be.
Venom also begins acting erratically, and not in line with Big Boss’s original plans. BB tries to resolve this diplomatically, but the nanomachines just seem to make Venom worse and worse.
• In 1995, South Africa - now under a new government - agrees to the UN’s demands (in the MG universe) to completely shut down their nuclear weapons programs and make the creation or storage of them anywhere within their borders illegal. In response to this, Venom Snake has Outer Heaven declare independence from the country, becoming the world’s first “mercenary republic,” with plans to launch an insurrection against Cipher. This draws the suspicions and fears of the outside world. The United Nations Security Council demands that a stealth operations unit investigate. The United States selects FOXHOUND for the job. Big Boss secretly decides to have Venom Snake be assassinated so he can quietly take the reins of Outer Heaven himself. He dispatches Gray Fox to accomplish this, but he’s captured. Desperate, Big Boss selects his top performing rookie, Solid Snake, for Operation Intrude N313.
And the rest is history…
If you’ve read this far, congrats! Sorry for such a long post, but I’ve been itching to get this out there somewhere haha.
SS is unbeatable, and can just heal wounds
Beating SS causes a time paradox, you let him win
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But instead of Snake sneaking around military outposts, Snake sneaks around military locker rooms.
I think that would be pretty cool.
No, but seriously, I bought the Vol 1. HD 4k Metal Gear ultra super collection, or whatever it’s called.
I never really played metal gear except for a little bit of the 3rd and 5th one.
So really my first experience with metal gear is Metal Gear Solid 1 .
And oh my god this game is a masterpiece.
I love how absolutely horrible this dialogue is, you can tell this was not made by someone who spoke English.
Also, Snake is pretty um… freaky
I’m playing through MGS1 again and the encounter with “Anderson” made me wonder about that.
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I saw someone else talk about this and thought it was cool. I’ll do this in bullet-point form:
• Big Boss and Venom Snake initially continued working together from a distance after MGSV, but to help sell the deception of being BB’s body-double (in the event he’d need to assume that identity again, which he would in MG1,) he enlists Dr. Madnar to undergo an experimental surgery using robots and nanomachine injections to finally remove the shrapnel horn without causing a brain hemorrhage. By the power of “NANOMACHINES SON!”, it works.
Pictured below: Supposedly extracted from MGSV’s files: an aged Venom Snake without the horn. You can faintly see a scar where the horn would be.
• However, the nanomachines are experimental, with side-effects not being immediately clear. They end up damaging Venom Snake’s psyche and kinda make him go insane. He becomes ruthless and sadistic, embracing his reputation as a “demon.” He begins acting erratically, and not in line with Big Boss’ plans. This begins to sour their relationship.
• Operation Intrude N313 would be the climax of the wedge driven between Venom and BB. It would be BB sending Solid Snake to basically assassinate Venom so that then BB could take over Outer Heaven for himself. However, Solid “goes too far” by discovering the existence of Metal Gear and their plans to use it against the United States in order to take down Cipher/The Patriots. Venom does one last “F you” to BB by pretending to be him when confronting Solid, in order to destroy his reputation. With Outer Heaven and Metal Gear destroyed, the real Big Boss is forced to secretly start over in Zanzibar Land/Tselinoyarsk.
What do y’all think?
I've been searching throughout the internet to figure out how to unlock this suit, but I found no clear answer. So, I now turn towards the wisdom of my fellow Fandom users. How do you unlock this suit? At what point in the game is it available, and what prerequisites are needed in order to unlock it? I don't care too much if spoilers are involved (I have a hard enough time following the story for these games anyway).
Here's a picture I found online of the suit I'm talking about (since there is more than one "sneaking suit" in the game)
Mostly just asking out of curiosity. I assume she might have the most positive opinion of Solid just since he seemed to have the best understanding of her will, but curious what y’all think.
You can watch it on YouTube https://youtu.be/5Va8jDL6ONk or on the website https://www.mgs-philanthropy.net/ with on adds.
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