Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-4913740-20140331092208/@comment-175.139.18.231-20151013161947

Misterbunnsy wrote: So the topic of Big Boss returning to FOXHOUND is in debate currently. Us fans cannot possibly envision how Zero would allow BB to return to FOXHOUND and take command in any capacity, given the control he garners already over the United States at the time of Ground Zeroes.

But this is not a detail that is easily retconned. Snake will return to the United States and retake command of FOXHOUND in order to play the double role he undertakes in Metal Gear 1 and fight his son in order to pursue the Outer Heaven Uprising.

So how could he do it??

The answer, in my opinion, lies within the second enemy of Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain. While Zero / Cipher is always the primary antagonist, GZ has introduced another: Skull Face, and his mirror unit XOF. The XOF name and patch are direct inversions of the FOX name and patch. He's basically ripped off the original FOX unit.

When you sneak into the prison camp in Ground Zeroes and break Chico out of his cage, you can eavesdrop on a conversation with two guards at the prison gate. They talk about an XOF patch in the area (there's one near the gate for those who want to collect it) and one of them muses about how he recalls seeing it before. He can't remember the full details however, and the two guards part.

So here we see, confusion for this guard. He recognises the patch partially, but because it's a mirror of the FOX patch, he doesn't fully recall.

And this is where more people will become confused. If a group of soldiers is seen killing children in a small town, with a patch on their arm that says FOX and has a picture of a FOX, would they be able to identify whether it was Snake's men or Skull Face's men?

The Phantom Pain will culminate with Snake destroying XOF and defeating Skull Face. But what reputation will XOF attract? And how much of that will be caused by confusion between FOX and XOF?

Snake will gain credit for taking out Skull Face, whose unit allegedly killed many innocent children and tortured POWs and committed atrocities. And Zero, having built up Big Boss as an idol, a legend, an image for the Patriots, will have no way of stopping Big Boss from taking command of FOXHOUND.

Because to reveal that information, information regarding Cipher and Skull Face would also need to be revealed. And that is how Snake ties Zero's hand in this affair.

Thoughts, anybody? zero IS the main antagonist, but if you follow the story thoroughly;

"Post-Peace WalkerEdit
In March 1975, Zero heard about the attack on MSF and that Big Boss survived the incident but had fallen into a coma. Having his suspicions on who was behind the attack, Zero contacted EVA to head the operation to move his comatose friend, Miller, and an unconscious medic from Colombia to a safe hospital in Cyprus. He then devised a plan whereby the medic would be transformed into Big Boss's "Phantom" (body double) through hypnotherapy and plastic surgery to make him believe he was the real Big Boss so that he could act as his public face until the time came for his resurgence.

Ultimately, Zero learned the hard way that Skull Face had planned for years to attack him, as Skull Face wanted to free himself. As Zero spent his time in hiding and relayed orders via proxies since the cloning project, Skull Face never had an opportunity to track him down until Paz's survival was discovered. He then had her abducted, ostensibly due to her being a traitor to Cipher, to gain information on where Zero was located, as she was the only agent to have actually met Zero face-to-face. During this time, Zero had been undergoing treatment secretly at 10th Avenue of Hell's Kitchen in New York City.

Skull Face learned of Zero's hideout after successfully torturing Paz at Camp Omega. Not long after Skull Face attacked MSF, he sent Zero a pin, a very close copy of the Winged Dagger pin that was once owned by The Boss, which was laced with a strain of parasite that would eventually reduce Zero to a vegetative state, supposedly as he recovered from The Boss' body in Russia. During the "business call" supposed to confirm Zero's received the package, Zero pricked himself while examining the pin, the wound became the vector for the parasite to enter his body; by the end of the phone call, the parasite began to take effect, leaving Zero in debilitating pain.

Although the best physicians attempted to delay the effects, Zero was resigned to his fate. He secretly arranged for the DARPA AI developer Strangelove, who had resigned from MSF over a week before the failed inspection initially not been aware of DARPA's connection to Cipher, to develop for him an AI network to take over the Patriots, having already lost faith in the new generation. However, she was eventually forced out after a "certain incident." He then left command over to Donald Anderson, more specifically the central AI that Anderson oversaw. He also gave the AI specific rules to follow in order to avoid a repeat of the Mammal Pod's hacking into NORAD during the Peace Walker Incident. However, Skull Face and the XOF later found Donald Anderson and took over Cipher's operations to more effectively carry out his plans of destroying the English language, forcing Zero to rely on his own resources to effectively hide from Skull Face.

By 1977, he also paid Big Boss a visit in Cyprus and intended to bid him farewell and presumably bury the hachet between them. Zero also realized that if Big Boss were to ever wake up from his coma that the legendary soldier would be best suited to stop Skull Face's plan from coming to fruition. With that he requested former Patriot operative Ocelot to look over Big Boss, and for Miller to await Big Boss's return to lead Diamond Dogs. In order to ensure his disappearance and destination was kept secret, he also had orchestrated a blackout in New York City that same year that disrupted communications and transportation via the AI and two submarines, also giving a cover story. He ultimately succumbed to the parasites and went into a persistent vegetative state. He was relegated to life support.[7] [8]

By the time of Skull Face's death in 1984, Zero had fully entered his vegetative state and relinquished his control over Cipher, migrating power to other key members like Donald Anderson. Years later this control was given over to the Patriot AIs in accordance with his living will."

so, refer as above. zero did bury the hatchet with big boss and after BB awakening, he follow what zero want him to be( created a body double etc). and that's explain how BB can return to foxhound and became it's commander.

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Later yearsEdit
Unfortunately for Zero, what he had brought about had unforeseeable consequences: Namely, Big Boss ended up giving in to his darker nature and began fighting the Patriots and trying to bring about various wars, as well as conducting a coup d'état before being put down by one of the Les Enfants Terribles clones, Solid Snake, ultimately resulting in Big Boss being placed into a nanomachine-induced coma after Zanzibar Land. To make matters worse, his AIs ended up completely abandoning his will and crafted their own, and even his closest allies Donald Anderson and Dr. Clark grew corrupt. The AI's deviation grew to a head the time of Solidus Snake's takeover of the Big Shell, the AIs fully crafted their own will."