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64.33.250.214 wrote: 64.33.250.214 wrote: I'd just like to point out that Solidus's response to Ocelot's comment is in no way a dismissal. Keep in mind that Solidus hadn't been very close to Big Boss himself, and Kojima hadn't planned on a sequel for which he could delve into the character's origins.

I should probably clarify. Big Boss didn't like the idea of the clones, yes? So being the perfect clone that he was, Solidus would be an abomination to him. During the events of MG1-MG2 he is entirely absent. Had he seen Boss prior to or during the events of Phantom Pain, there's still a large time period where he wasn't close to him that he might lose facial recognition.

I have the same impression as well. It is very likely that even though Ocelot was being somewhat earnest in his comment, as means of inspiring Solidus to rise up to the legacy of Outer Heaven at that last minute, this may have not been the case in the past. You can clearly tell that Solidus' reaction to this was out of sheer sarcasm, as he was the one that Ocelot was charged with hiding for the better part of 3 decades - this very much defined his character when you finally meet him.

Even in comparison to Liquid, he is not the most rational of the 3 clones, because he allowed himself to play roles in the conspiracy that never gave him full control of the circumstances, in the hopes that one day, he would have the title of Big Boss. Who was always in control was Ocelot and it's pretty transparent that he resents him for it, especially at that ending scene where it is evident that Solid Snake threw an uncalculated wrench in the plans that Ocelot was meant to prevent and failed to by accepting his faked death in Tanker incident.

The idea was to distract GW with the exercise data from this selected candidate of his, Jack, while he hijacked Arsenal Gear. Turns out he would be faced with very different odds than Ocelot initially forecast for him, even predicting Olga's assignment under Patriot coersion. This clearly didn't sit well with him, as his advice to stick to the political arena after Liberia, cost him the time he didn't have to rise up as the true successor to Big Boss. By this time he was fully aware that his cells were dying as part of the contingency plan stipulated for the Les Enfants Terrible Project.

All in all, Solidus turns out to be another pawn in the Patriots game, but he was also Ocelot's device to allow him to escape the GW's AI, which was the planned means of control to all players in this conflict, given the Patriots are long since dead when this happens,but have effectively forecast the flow of digital information would eventually lead the conspirators to their doorstep. By evading this, the system now turns to battlefield control in exchange for a huge profiteering market on the war economy. This is what Ocelot had in mind since the 80's when he witnesses the power of Mother Base and the shaping of the Outer Heaven legacy.