Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-11288626-20151021103009/@comment-64.33.250.214-20151026103549

184.100.169.245 wrote: Who is to say that Big Boss ever fell from grace? Cipher is clearly shown to have manipulated the fall of Outer Heaven and making it out to be something it wasn't...so it is just as likely that the Zanzibar Land intel was just another bit of misinformation to bring it's downfall out of fear of losing it's grip on society and failure of it's interpretation of The Boss's will Unlikely, unless Cipher manipulated Big Boss's speech in MG2. He explained to Solid Snake his intention to raise children for war, threatening to murder Solid if he refused to defend himself in a fight. Big Boss admits in MGS4 to having made mistakes, telling Solid he may not have made the same mistakes in his place. Solid was used as a pawn throughout the games, so for Big Boss to think he'd do better than him he must've done some terrible things.