Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-86.46.22.35-20130403153709/@comment-1672596-20140612193122

Jim Logan wrote: Except Solidus was born in 1972 shortly after Soiid and Liquid -_-. Nice try though And even if he isn't born in 1972 (technically, it was never actually stated if he was born in 1972, just that he was created after Big Boss left. That could be any time between 1972 and 1976, the latter date being the end date for the Les Enfants Terribles project when it was shelved), he'd still need to grow at an exceptionally fast rate in either case.

It is possibly likely that Venom Snake/Punished Snake may be the MGSV equivalent of Raiden, though, since Kojima did hint at wanting to pull something like what he pulled in MGS2 by keeping it a secret that Raiden was the main character over Snake for unsuspecting audiences, and boy did that both work and... well, backfired on him. Not necessarily a clone, though admittedly he might be one, there had to be a reason why they had to unveil the project being cancelled in 1976 in the ending timeline of Ground Zeroes: I have doubts that the date relates to Those Who Don't Exist, as 1. Psycho Mantis definitely could not have been a clone of Big Boss at all (and that's assuming that said child is Psycho Mantis). 2. That ghost thing resembling Volgin clearly wasn't even among the living, so how could it even be alive, never mind a clone (especially when Volgin was clearly older than Big Boss/Naked Snake)? 3. The Sundowner-esque soldiers look more like people in their twenties or thirties, which would be impossible if they were LET children, even with the werner syndrome aspects. For that matter, Eli, even if he is Liquid (which the fact that Hideo Kojima did nothing to even confirm or deny whether he is, and knowing him and how he basically confirmed from the getgo that Ocelot was in MGS3 and how Huey is indeed who we think he is in TGS 2009's Peace Walker showing, it's unlikely that he would just keep it in the dark. Even for him, that's unusual), can't be the reason for the date. By 1984, Liquid would be 12 years old since he was born in 1972, alongside Solid Snake, so he won't have any real impact by LET being shut down in 1976.