Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5085906-20130627191357/@comment-25168690-20140727043841

Misterbunnsy wrote: So I slept before continuing to watch this. As I am now. And the very first thing I see next is just ridiculous to me.

Somehow, because S. Snake fights Gray Fox BAREHANDED on the minefield in Zanzibar, that this means Gray Fox is behind the two soldiers fighting barehanded at Diamond Dogs Mother Base in the E3 trailer. And that they pull out the knife, and that Gray Fox says "only a fool trusts his life to a weapon." They're assuming incredibly that the reason Big Boss forces the soldier to stab him is to show he is a FOOL for using such a weapon. There is no mention of this being the reason, as it is clearly left ambiguous in this clip. BUT they make the leap to say this must be what it means, and this must clearly be an indicator of the new Snake being Big Boss.

They later mention that the Metal Gear we see is similar to REX, perhaps an early prototype based on Granin's designs, just like REX. If Gray Fox is Venom Snake, then this is why he knows that Metal Gear REX's radome is its weakness. However, this is a hell of an assumption to make. Who's to say that Gray Fox, seeing as he has stealth camo in MGS1, didn't just follow Liquid or Ocelot or even ask Otacon what the weakness is. It's absurd to suggest that the only possible way Fox could know this weakness is to have been Venom Snake and seen it for himself twenty years earlier.

This thing about Venom Snake saying "I won't scatter your sorrow to the heartless sea... I will always be with you." PythonSelkan suggests that someone who is alive does not say that to someone who is dead, it's the other way around. This is taken to mean that V. Snake is saying those words in a different scene and the inferred meaning would change because of the scene. So the assumption they make is he is saying this about Naomi. While it was an interesting idea, it is still based on ASSUMPTIONS and GUESSWORK, not EVIDENCE and FACT. V. Snake saying those words is more likely referring to his statement to turn the ashes of their dead comrades into diamonds (the statement is followed by a line from Kaz: "A shining light to our brothers in arms", as well as the phrase "Spirits of Ground Zeroes"). While my interpretation is guesswork as well, based on what is shown, it is heavily implied by the trailer that this is the inferrence being made by V. Snake's statement. Yes I always interpreted the "I will always be with you" as refering to the Diamonds, and the whole Saladin is just lame this people never mention the retcons, Kojima never thinks ahead, but this guys claim that he planned everything since the original Metal Gear came out, and also they use the whole Big Boss in a coma during Les enfants Terribles as further proof.

Kojima laready stated that this is no longer cannon, but all they say is "OMG Kojima lies don't trust him"