Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-86.46.22.35-20130403153709/@comment-64.33.250.214-20140812222612

0nighthawk0 wrote: 64.33.250.214 wrote: 0nighthawk0 wrote: 64.33.250.214 wrote: 0nighthawk0 wrote: I still say the casting department made a bad call with finding an actor for Solidus for Rising and based his appearance of how he appeared in MGS2 without keeping in mind of his actual age and possible appearance during that time. And honestly, it's quite dismissable since no infant of 3 years old or younger could have started watching Big Boss, they don't produce full grown men after all. People keep forgetting the whole "accelerated aging" thing. What if The Patriots made Solidus's have the opposite effect of the other clones? When Liquid and Snake near middle age, their aging kicks in. When Solidus nears middle age, his aging slows down. Realistic? No. But this is a video game series that often flies in the face of reality.

Remember, The Patriots wanted Solidus to age super fast to create a President in the image of Big Boss. No, in this case people are giving the accelerated aging far too much credit, first of all, I'll say it again, no clone could be watching Big Boss for 9 years because they would have to start watching him as infants. Secondly, accelerated aging just doesn't work that fast, it cannot possibly produce a fully grown man whom seems to be in his 30's at the age of 12, it just isn't possible.

And I know, people will point out the clip from Rising, but as I've said before, I still fully think the casting department made a mistake there and judged the character's appearance on how he appeared in MGS2 and not how he would actually appear since by that time, he isn't even an adult yet in terms of age. It's not the first time such casting mistakes have been made. How do you know accelerated aging doesn't work like that? This is Kojima we're talking about here. He can change whatever rules he sees fit. Just like he did when he brought Liquid back as a ghost hand in MGS2, then ignored all that in MGS4 by replacing the hand with a cybernetic one. Also, the cloning stuff was never realistic. Science hasn't ever cloned identical clones. And how do yyou know accelerated aging does work like that? "This is Kojima" isn't really a viable answer and the rest is pure speculation, I'm going about on what we already know by the accelerated aging shown to us in Solid Snake and Solidus and there is no hint what so ever that Solidus was a fully grown adult when he was only 12 years old, and we already know it didn't kick in with Solid Snake until his 30's or so.

And....we never cloned identical clones? I'm pretty sure Sheep Dolly would disagree with you. "This is Kojima" isn't an answer so much as it is a reminder that he can do whatever he pleases. That means retcons... Kojima said in an interview that Phantom Pain will contain retcons. Going by what we currently know, we know that Solidus's accelerated aging worked differently than it did for Solid and Liquid. Solidus was the last clone, and yet he looked exactly like old Big Boss from MG1-MG2 during MGS2. Solid's aging hadn't yet kicked in then.

Solidus was only in his 20s when he became President. The legal limit for a US President is 35, and most US Presidents are older than that. That was nearly 10 years before MGS2. When Solidus was a teenager, he was working for the CIA and leading child soldiers. Do you think the CIA would hire someone who looked like a child? Or would children take orders to kill from someone who wasn't physically imposing to them? This doesn't prove it, but suggests the accelerated aging could have started much earlier for Solidus.

Dolly was a sheep. Science hasn't yet cloned a human (that we know of), because cloning humans is much more complicated. No clone will ever be truly genetically identical. You can clone identical genes, but those genes will change dramatically when a clone is exposed to different environments. That means appearance, voice, and IQ wont remain completely the same as the person whose DNA was copied.

Did you know when Dolly was cloned, she was already 6 years old? That makes it possible for Solidus to have been older from the day he was cloned.