Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-65.31.134.55-20130328025957/@comment-175.159.163.39-20130625092005

Weedle McHairybug wrote: 175.159.163.39 wrote: Weedle McHairybug wrote: 175.159.163.39 wrote: Zelda4dinner wrote: I've  been thinking about Project Omega..

1. The AI technology that went into the Peace Walker project was funded by the Patriots. The Peace Walker project was indirectly funded and supported by Cipher in order to develop a validated, field-tested AI, although Cipher has no interest in AI as weapons of war unlike Coldman.

2. Paz and Zadornov were Cipher agents sent to make sure the project went according to plan. Paz was meant to steal Metal Gear ZEKE and bring it back to Cipher for its AI (remember, Cipher has no interest in AI as weapons of war).

3. Paz failed, neccessitating the attack on Mother Base by XOF, not just to punish Big Boss for refusing to follow the will of Cipher, but I suspect also to successfully steal ZEKE.

4. The AI will be used in Project Omega later in the 1980s. Zadornov is working for the KGB, no? But Paz for the Cipher surely. Paz briefly implied when revealing herself to be a Cipher agent that Zadornov might have been a Cipher agent as well ("To our leaders, to Cipher!" Take note the use of "our" in there. She obviously did not know about Kaz's affiliation with Cipher, and since she was trying to get Big Boss to return, she obviously wasn't referring to Big Boss as a Cipher agent, so the only one with direct involvement alongside Paz during that time was Zadornov). I wont rule out the possiblity of Zadornov working for Cipher too (after all we have seen under Kojima's writing) but it seems to me this is not that convincing. Consider that he brought in so many Russian soldiers at the end and manipulating Strangelove to fire the nuke, I'd say that is a rather strong sign that he is truly working for the KGB (instead of working the Cipher under cover). He failed only because Armada arrived at the last minute.

As to your suggestion of the word [our], allow me to say that in many cases in our daily living, we would have said "our country", "our team", "our campany" very commonly. Paz's use of the word [our] in this occasion, in my opinion, may not necessarily refer to herself and Zadornov, but more likely the collective group of Cipher.

Cipher was supposed to be very secretive, and with the exception of when she first mentions Cipher (where she refers to "leader" in the plural tense), most if not all of the references to Cipher were implied to be that of Zero. Heck, I refer to America as my country, not "our" country, because I'm speaking for myself. Now, if I were with my family, I would say "our country" because there is a collective right there (my family). Since there isn't anyone else present during that conversation that she is aware of that is a fellow Cipher member and/or affiliate (and no, Kaz doesn't count because 1. He's not actually a member of Cipher, but a neutral business partner, and 2. even if he were, the diary tapes made it very clear that she was completely unaware of Cipher having other agents on Mother Base, never mind that Kaz was a contact of them), and thus would only be speaking for herself, the only way the our would be applied would have been if she were referring to Zadornov. The aspect of a collective would not apply when talking to people who clearly aren't even on Cipher's side and you're the only one who is. And that meeting is not "daily living" anyways.

The main point of my last comment was that he did so much to bring in so many Russians to the base and even going so far to change the nuke's target to Cuba, which made me believe that he is really working for the Russians. But then you are right that people's intentions in this game changes like wind and are very well covered all along, which is why I will not rule out your theory on his true employer yet. As to the use of the word [our], I think it is up to people's choice of word, and is only supplementary to my observation on Zadornov's action itself.