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Misterbunnsy wrote: Oh I never bothered with finishing all missions.

Kaz seems like a double-crossing dick because of this too. Maybe that's why he ends up assisting Solid Snake in Metal Gear 1, because he's actually on the Patriots side and he's against Big Boss.

As much as it was very bad of Kaz to go to Cipher to expand MSF, I doubt that's the reason why he's assisting Solid Snake. Don't forget, Cipher also ended up backstabbing Kaz by having Paz launch a nuke at the United States, thus potentially ruining MSF despite Cipher basically promising to have MSF expand unaided to get Kaz onboard. I mean, greed or not, Kaz would have to be really mentally unhinged if he were to trust the Patriots after that. Even when he does inevitably go against Big Boss by MG1, I doubt Patriot affiliations were the reason as Kaz, thanks to the events of the second ending, would have more than enough of a reason to hate them anyways. Besides, I doubt he was actually a member to begin with anyway, since he even told Zero that he's neither an ally nor an enemy, but a neutral business partner. I mean, telling Big Boss he's only a neutral business partner is one thing, but telling Zero, the guy who is supposed to act as your boss at Cipher, this? That seems to indicate that, other than Zero being a contact, he's not an actual member of Cipher, unlike Paz and possibly Zadornov.

Plus, from the way Kaz and Zero were talking in the call, it seems to take place before the ZEKE battle. For one thing, ZEKE isn't even mentioned in the call (not by name, at least), despite Paz bragging that Cipher created ZEKE, which would have made it important enough in their plans to even warrant a mention as to its fate, whether according to plan or otherwise, had it taken place afterwards. Probably the closest thing to a mention was the AI being validated, which was probably referring to Paz's final diary entry.

Oh, and for the questions asked by Zelda4Dinner regarding Angola and LET, I think Angola may have been a reference to the MSF's outer ops. Don't forget, those things have MSF being deployed to other hotspots across the globe. And for LET, that's probably a reference to what happens in the MSX2 games. Regarding his affiliations, it had to be between the time he met Big Boss and the events of the second ending. It's pretty clear from both the second ending and the secret tape that he only worked with Cipher because the latter promised to expand MSF.

I also feel that, if it was a plot twist, it was a badly done one. They already hinted at Kaz potentially being a Cipher agent (albeit deeply regretting it after the battle) in the second ending alone from his apology. The only thing the call does is confirm it.

And regarding Kaz being naive, it wouldn't be the first time someone ended up being naive regarding someone's goals: Otacon and Huey ended up being extremely naive regarding their creations, and even Snake acted somewhat naive in MGS regarding Miller/Liquid's plot.