Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-98.234.99.168-20150703054955/@comment-93.46.48.22-20150718001233

Of course they say it in the plural form because that's the projects name and it's never once been referred to as Les Enfant Terrible. For the uneducated, not saying you are, it's French for "The Terrible Children." and yes, they can drop the phrase with "Enfants" and still be talking about only one of them, all three were part of the project, this does not mean all three are in the game.

So Big Boss eventually realizes that Les Enfants Terribles is plural, Liquid has a twin and there is another perfect clone of BB himself. He meets Liquid. ONLY LIQUID. He will be asking: "Hey kiddo, where the hell are your Burothahz?" and Liquid will answeri: "Dunno and you are not gonna meet'em cuz some fans said Kojima shouldn't show them. Dear Daddy all you'll be seeing it's me lel"

The two Eli's eye color is not clearly shown, especially the second one, so you cannot say that they definitely have different colored eyes and even if they did, how do you know that it really is just Eli imagining his clone twin in his head and the different colored eyes is just there to throw us off and make us think it's both of them? Especially when Eli imagining his clone twin makes a hell of a lot more sense than Solid and Liquid having the same clothes with the same rips and tears in the same places and having the same facial scars in the same exact spots.

I can clearly see that the first 'Eli', the one that apparently is dreaming or  hallucinating, has blue eyes just like Solid while the second one, "the hallucination" has green eyes. If you can't see it...well that's your problem. And having Liquid imagining his twin as his perfect copy just with different eye color doesn't make sense at all.

So not knowing what's going on means his memory was wiped? Yeah that makes about as much sense as any of PythonSelkanHD's batshit insane conspiracy theories. Tell me something, if his memory was wiped, how is it that in MG2, he remembers the events of MG1? And in MGS1 he remembers the events of both previous games?

PythonSelkanHD my ass. I meant to say that Solid could had his memory erased ONCE, just before Operatrion Intrude N313. Basically he got his childhood erased, just that. Than he goes through every MG normally, remembering everything from the original MG through MGS4.

So you'd accept a retcon just to have a character in the game even if he probably shouldn't, when shoehorning in characters just to have them in is not how a good story is told and ends up making things worse in the end?

Just like I told the other guy, if Kojima feels Solid Snake should not be in the game, then he won't be, he's not going to put him in just for the sake of having him there or because the fans want it, the fact that he never once budged from having Kiefer Sutherland voicing Big Boss because of all the crying over it should be more than enough to show that he's done giving in to fan demands and is doing things how he wants them done, and as this is his last Metal Gear game, that's exactly how it should be done.

Kojima himself said there will be inconsistencies so why the hell Solid, Liquid and Solidus shouldn't be in TPP? All of them are born in 1984 and probably doing awesome shit I want to behold. Apparently Liquid is driving Metal Gears, kicking ass being an hell of a child soldier, while Solid is just beating his snake like a lameass bitch so he's not worth to be shown in Kojima last Metal Gear Solid. Bullshit, just bullshit. Both Solid and Solidus in 1984 are doing awesome shit and that's what Kojima will show us in TPP imo. He is not just throwing a bunch of character just because. I believe in HIDEO. Again this would be THE Metal Gear Solid, his masterpiece, and Baby Solid is entitled to take part of it. Not because I say so, not because other fans say so, but because it's fucking Solid Snake. Sassy Liquid is there, Badass Solid will be there as well.