Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1519017-20130616224119/@comment-1210805-20130819150734

42.98.41.253 wrote: What I am talking about is possibility, not certainty.

What I can say is, we have no evidence against the saying that Code Talker = Boss Father, but that doesn't mean I buy this theory. If you ask which versions of the "truth" do I believe in, then I would go for Code Talker = Wiseman Committee member but =/= Boss Father. See my long paragraph describing why Code Talker can be a Wiseman despite what The Boss mentioned in MGS3? But in the end, I really have no evidence to counter the point on Code Talker = Boss Father, so I just leave that possibility open. Simple as that. It can't be The Boss' father. As has been said before, her father died when she was quite young. Not only that, but it was the death of the last member of the original Philosophers (which is implied to be The Boss' father) that set events in motion and caused the organisation to lose site of what it was. His survival would undermine his own importance and bring up a whole array of problems. Not only that, but the only image we have of him suggests that he had blonde hair like his daughter, a trait not found in Native Americans.

62.152.162.150 wrote: by thinking of it a wiseman denied his homeland, if hes really the last one of the commitee if he would still be alive (knowingly) than the patriots couldnt be formed, cause there would be still a wiseman wich has the power over the phil. legacy at that point. im thinking a wiseman denied his homeland means in this case he maybe didnt prevent the patriots from getting over the usa or even the world. maybe because he feared his life, maybe because hes selfish idk. this is just my theory of things. That makes no sense. The Philosophers had lost control of the Legacy, that was the entire point of MGS3. Volgin possessed the full legacy thanks to his father managing to take it, unnoticed in the confusion of WW2. Simply being alive would not give the Philosophers access to the money. They would have no power over the Legacy.

That said, the idea of his being "denied his land" due to the Patriots usurping the Philosophers former position has some merit.