Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-86.46.22.35-20130403153709/@comment-25366375-20141202151056

64.33.250.214 wrote:

One could say the same about other VA performances. If you listen to The Fury and MGS4's Big Boss side-by-side, you might be able to tell it's the same actor. Doyle's delivery for the Fury was a bit boisterous, while his take on Big Boss was more subdued. Doyle's voice work sounds disimilar enough to pass for other characters, yet you can tell it's him if you listen closely. To be honest, I didn't immediately recognize the Medic was Sutherland until game theorists like Yong Yea changed the pitch of his voice.

We need to take into consideration HOW Sutherland is being paid. Is he being paid per character, per line of dialogue, or a lump sum per game? If they latter, then Konami can afford to rehire him for multiple roles without overcharging the game's budget. You keep invoking The Fury/Big Boss argument, but they were never the main character. Point taken about the Emmerichs, but while they're fairly main characters, again, they are not the main character.

And as I said before, with all the hubub around Kiefer Sutherland being Snake it makes very little sense to simply recast him as a throwaway character. Whether or not he's still Ishmael remains to be seen, but he is Medic. This is the reality.

So yes, Sutherland may be getting paid per game, as odd as that would be but there is no logical reason for him to be more than one character that isn't Snake - especially when in the exact same scene as Snake.

64.33.250.214 wrote: If that were true, then one shouldn't be able to recognize themself in old photographs. You've got me there. I don't know the finer details of the theory, but do some research in to doppleganger theories. Just saying, that's one aspect to consider.

64.33.250.214 wrote:

Even if neither Big Boss nor Chico noticed, someone else should have. Wasn't the Medic a member of MSF? One of Boss's staff could have picked up on this.

Chico is a fan of conspiracies, he'd be the one most likely to spot a body double.

You would think he'd be a bit paranoid and looking over his shoulder for evil doppelgangers.

The Medic (from what little we've seen of him) looks at least in his 20s, and sounds even older. Let's deconstruct this.

You said yourself the Medic looks at least in his 20s. He appears to be clean shaven, and has a short haircut. Big Boss is 40 as of Ground Zeroes, and it's pretty unlikely that people who didn't know Boss in his 20s would be able to look at Medic and say "wow, you know he's like your clone or something", what with Boss' hair, beard, eyepatch and wrinkles et cetera. Boss himself possibly could, but as I say above, it's a psychological theory that you wouldn't recognise a doppleganger, and Solidus was the perfect clone.

The same reason Big Boss wouldn't be on the lookout for evil clones is the exact reason Medic, if he were Solidus, would be able to inhabit MSF with no suspicion. Les Enfant Terribles took place in 1972, so unless Boss was expect evil clone babies to come after him, there'd be no reason for him to fear LET's ramifications for a few years yet. The trouble becomes the fact that Boss knew both Liquid and Solid were his sons during their FOXHOUND days, so maybe Phantom Pain will shed some light on whether or not he learns Eli's identity earlier than FOXHOUND.

So then, if realistically the LET babies were 3 years old as of Ground Zeroes, how could Medic even hope to be Solidus? Well we know for a fact that Solidus was the worst hit by accelerated aging out of the 3 LET babies, and we also know that during the 1980s he was a fully grown man (having already served in the CIA) where he "trained" Jack and the rest of their cohort. If he's a full-grown adult as early as 8 years old, why not 3?

I personally think that Solidus was probably born between 1974-5, but that's just me.

64.33.250.214 wrote: If Medic is Ishmael, why do the voices not totally match? Because that Ishmael build is two years old, and was released when it wasn't announced that Kiefer Sutherland would be voicing Snake. Snake's voice in subsequent trailers is incredibly slight, and he barely speaks.

This is in opposition to Snake and Medic who discuss Paz's condition with each other. Medic's voice was deepened so you could distinguish between who was speaking out of Snake and Medic.