Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-109.193.182.64-20150909104238/@comment-1672596-20150912175413

Jim Logan wrote: Adachi Did It wrote: I agree quite a bit with you. Story-wise this was without a doubt the weakest MGS (in the main series anyway) ever. I said in another thread, the whole main ops felt like it was rushing me to the end, it left so much open-ended that I left with a feeling of 'what was the point?'.

I also agree about Snakes lack of speaking. We all knew he wouldn't speak half as much as in previous games, but it felt like he had a 10th of Hayters MGS3 lines, if that much. I guess this is explained as 'we' are Venom, it just seems to me like they couldn't afford Kiefer to say too much.

I disagree about Quiet though, imo her storyline was 1 of the best things in the game for me, though even that felt rushed and unfinished to me. But to see this woman plan to kill Snake (and every Diamond Dog I assume), to see her struggle after seeing the 'legend' in action. To see her finally risk her life to make sure Snake is saved, I personally genuinely enjoyed her story more than Snakes.

But like I said, on 90% of this I agree with you. Even Quiets story, the best part imo, wasn't done properly, I just feel a little cheated by the whole thing. Quiet is the silent character trope done right. She expressed her feelings not through words, but through body movements, by facial expressions, by her actions. She went from a heartless assassin just doing her job(kill Big Boss) to a love sick puppy who followed Snake around(remember how she tried to sneak on the chopper with him?), plus, she had some of the best scenes in the entire game: Her tender moment with Snake in the rain was just so "awww" enducing, that's just the kinda romance Disney and Lucas WISH they could make. My only gripe is how they just tossed her away, okay she didn't want Snake and the rest of Diamond Dogs to die due to her intense loyalty, fine. But when the army of tanks come rushing at them, instead of fultoning the hell out of there she's just like "Nah I'm gonna take tanks on with a sniper rifle.", you destroy the tanks, she gets hit by a tank shell. To the face(doesn't kill her), Snake gets bit by a snake(okay that's funny), then she kills herself by speaking English. Really? REALLY? You couldn't have come up with a better way for her to die? OR you know..let us keep using her as a buddy? Seriously, they should've put a disclaimer "DON'T SPEND GMP ON QUIET'S GEAR." Just so we're clear, when you say "that's just the kinda romance Disney and Lucas WISH they could make", are you referring to Disney as a whole or current Disney? I'm asking because several of the earlier films, up to The Little Mermaid at least, did do romance right. I do agree with you on Lucas and romance, though: They don't mix (probably the only times romance was actually done WELL in the Star Wars franchise when Lucas was running things was when they don't even follow the script Lucas laid out: Like Han Solo's "I know" response to Leia in The Empire Strikes Back or Padme and Anakin's "Aggressive Negotiations" conversation. Other than that, it came across as corny. Just look at Revenge of the Sith for a good idea of how bad the romance came across when actually going by the script.).