Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5085906-20130627191357/@comment-4913740-20130701154047

78.133.44.50 wrote: Wow, you guys look like you actually hate this guy for sharing his thoughts that way... I mean, there are countless theories going around and personally I find his; one of the most plausible and backed up theories, the only difference is that he made a well-edited video instead of just writing, trying to make it more entertaining to read/watch. It takes more than well-editing to prove your point. They backed up their theories with some evidence, but when their video was debunked, they refused to accept it and came out with ridiculous statements, such as claiming that Yong was not a "true analyst", simply because he pointed out where they were wrong.

Plus when you assume ridiculous things like "We never see BB pull out his binoculars, and snice the eyepatch now has a third strap, that means he has some sort of binocular eyepatch!" When unbelieveable theories like that are developed... it just ruins the validity of their claims.

To be honest, their reply video just seemed like a chance for them to bite back and be snarky just because someone had found where they were wrong. And that's why I oppose their theory so strongly; Gray Fox as BB's body double is a theory that has been thoroughly debunked.

Also, the Vapor Snake idea just sounds like something an amateur writer would come up with (like I said, I thought of some sort of Gas Snake that was neither Solid nor Liquid WHEN I WAS YOUNGER. As a more mature person now, I can see how that would be terrible. VAPOR Snake...

Now onto some more of your points.

The electronic cigar. Their point was that Big Boss told Huey he prefers cigars to the electronic cigarette. CIGARETTE. But if Huey could develop an electronic cigar, that allows him to smoke without all the health risks (especially with Big Boss becoming older), it is possible BB would start using this electronic cigar. You say why didn't he smoke the electronic cigar at the end of MGS4? Because he knew he was dying. When he starts smoking the cigar, the new FOXDIE is already taking effect. It was his last cigar before he passed away.

Now, VLS Method is a "mechanism for the growth of one-dimensional structures, such as nanowires, from chemical vapor deposition." Now I see why you would consider linking that with the Snake's names, but my point with Solidus wasn't that his NAME was meant to stand for Gas. It was that he was the third clone in the series, the perfect one, that was neither Solid nor Liquid, therefore he could be considered the GAS Snake in the metaphor.

You mention that Yong apparently used easy excuses to get out of the way of things. He just came up with the most logical solution. Seeing a third strap on an eyepatch somehow means that BB is using a Solid-Eye-esque binocular? That's a hell of a stretch to make. And when you say he means "true analyst" as in they analyse deeper and look at the little details... well, Yong clearly zooms in to the eyepatch to prove that there's no sort of electronics there, just a gap between the eyehole and the eyepatch.

Now you mention as well that if scars can fade away, why doesn't Zero's since his scar is the same size as Big Boss'? Well, the size isn't the problem. It's the wound itself. If you get a minor cut, it will likely remain as some semblance of a scar on you for some time. But over a long time, these can heal. If you look at Zero's scar, it's DEEP. Like pretty damn deep. And this scar thing isn't the be-all to end-all for this theory anyway. Retcons are always possible. And to use this point against the Gray Fox theory then, why doesn't Gray Fox have those scars on his face when he's seen in MGS1? That can't be pinned on lack of character detail, since he's seen as a more definitively rendered model in The Twin Snakes.

Now I'm not biased for Yong, since I had literally only just discovered him when I was watching these analyses. And these guys had good presentation; as a YouTube creator myself, I can appreciate great editing in videos, since it's not always an easy thing to do. And hats off to them for analysing the video thoroughly and coming up with SOME good points.

But my gripe is that when they were debunked, they behaved what appeared to me as little bitches. Throwing out their little insults at Yong or whatever. If they were TRUE ANALYSTS, they'd be able to accept if they analysed something incorrectly.

And I realise that you said there's "no need to make a fuss and write a 5 thousand word paragraph why you think that his theory is debunked". But to be fair this is only about 800 or so words. But the point of analysis is to be thorough and I think I'm being thorough in countering their claims.