Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-79.52.61.188-20130415085048/@comment-1672596-20130709160443

42.98.41.40 wrote: Weedle McHairybug wrote: 174.89.65.119 wrote: i would like to point out that zero was never part of foxhound he was only the commander for fox, its most likely that somone in foxhound command pulled some strings and had big boss join foxhound, also cipher was not in full control of either the US or UN so i could have fallen through the cracks From what was stated in both Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes, Cipher did have a large degree of control over the DIA, NSA, NRO, and CSS, certainly enough for Paz to brag about it, and they at least were crafty enough to manipulate both the CIA and the KGB. There's also the strong implication that Cipher was responsible for the UN's nuclear investigation of Mother Base, so they at least have enough control over the UN to ensure that. If we buy Ishmael's claims or XOF apparently being on the Soviets side, they may even have some control over the USSR and other national militaries.

And while Zero was never directly part of FOXHOUND, he certainly was in control of it via Dr. Clark, who WAS a member of FOXHOUND. Wait, Ishmael claimed XOF is russian?

FOXHOUND is a question that Kojima needs to answer as we can see Big Boss - enemy of Zero, was able to gain control of FOXHOUND, a Patriot organization. The control Big Boss has is very large as you can see people like Gray Fox and Raven and the rest of the Sons of Big Boss can join the unit. It's probably worth noting that it ended up in an undercover investigation before dissolving in MGS2. I apprecaite how everyone explained it via Punished Snake but I am still unconvinced if not confused... if XOF and [the whole world] wanted Snake dead, don't the people in control knows Punished Snake is that same Snake all over? Shouldnt Big Boss take on something like Revolver Raven instead of his inconic "surname" Snake if he is to lower his profile?

Yeah, except Dr. Clark was a member of FOXHOUND, that much was made clear from Naomi's explanation about her Gene Therapy Project and Baker referring to the ninja as "FOXHOUND's dirty secret."

Also, Ishmael claimed that "the world wanted [Big Boss] dead" when trying to have Big Boss escape from the hospital. The Russian element was implied by the Soviet soldiers possessing XOF's bandana in the E3 trailer.