Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4913740-20130707123202/@comment-1672596-20130722111930

Misterbunnsy wrote: FOXHOUND is a major development in the series because Big Boss will later use it as cover for his Outer Heaven Uprising. Not only that, but FOXHOUND are the main antagonists of MGS1, as well as a facsimile of FOXHOUND being used as the organisation Raiden is a part of in MGS2.

But in Portable Ops, it has not been created yet. In fact, Portable Ops shows the very early beginnings of FOXHOUND, as this is the first time Naked Snake is a leader and the joining of Campbell and Naked Snake will later mark the beginning of the series (Metal Gear 1).

And in Peace Walker, they're simply a special forces group. There's nothing to make the group significant, it's just a group that Big Boss led for a while and left when he split ties with Zero.

Yeah. Unfortunately, thanks to Peace Walker's ending and possibly the events of GZ/TPP, its highly unlikely that Big Boss would have actually regained control of FOXHOUND, making even Big Mama's account extremely unlikely to have occurred: don't forget, XOF was heavily implied in GZ's opening to be part of CIPHER/The Patriots, not to mention the UN was also implied to have been influenced by CIPHER during that time; Paz inferred that CIPHER was in control of the NRO, DIA, CSS, and NSA at the time of Peace Walker, at the very least, to say nothing about how they influenced the CIA and the KGB either, and if a brief scene from the E3 Microsoft showing of GZ's gameplay is to be believed, the Soviets, via XOF, may in fact be manipulated by CIPHER as well during Afghanistan. Also keep in mind that CIPHER was implied to have ordered for Paz to frame MSF with a nuclear strike against the USA as an insurance policy in case Big Boss refused to rejoin the group, not to mention CIPHER's implied involvement in XOF's destruction of Mother Base, so the chances of Big Boss actually rejoining FOXHOUND have dramatically decreased. Zero would have to be a total idiot to allow Big Boss to regain control of FOXHOUND, knowing that his actions in Peace Walker most likely would have made a bitter enemy should he survive/win against Paz. Peace Walker really should have just stuck with one ending, and if they really had to incorporate the Patriots into it, they should have at least made sure to do it in a way that made it completely unambiguous that Big Boss was familiar with the group and without contradicting the events of MGS4 as told by Big Mama, Liquid Ocelot, and Big Boss himself.