Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5085906-20130627191357/@comment-201.161.184.23-20140427194441

93.186.157.139 wrote: 72.132.163.107 wrote: Hideo and company has done a damn fine job at creating a story with so much depth and intrigue, consequently spurring all these theories. Figured I'd throw one out there as well. It's more of a point of view than a theory. The body double theories seem too far fetched for me, but not an impossible idea. I find more interest in people's views towards Big Boss' villainy. The whole he eventually becomes the "bad guy" thing. I feel this is a matter of opinion based on which side of the battlefield you are currently standing, but I'll get to that later. Since there's limited data on the exact storyline of the Phantom Pain I'm just gonna hit on facts we know. Ground Zeroes ended with the loss of Mother Base and failed attempt on Big Boss's life thanks to Paz. The Phantom Pain trailer shows Kaz, Big Boss and a third, who I think Hideo said was himself, but could be anyone. Perhaps the "faceless medic" Yong speaks on. I feel that Big Boss was picked up by Cipher, makes sense to me that Zero would want to rebuild Big Boss seeing as how he sent Paz to try to convince Big Boss to join his ranks. If the Phantom Pain doesn't overlap the first two games int he series we can safely assume that the furthest it can go is to the point of creation and operation of Outer Heaven. This could also mean that it's possible we might see the formation of FOX-HOUND. In a previous entry I noticed ideas about David Hayter returning as the voice of Solid Snake. That idea fits if FOX-HOUND show up in the Phantom Pain. I think it would be fitting to have Big Boss (Kiefer Sutherland) teaching new FOX-HOUND recruits when BAM! Solid Snake's (David Hayter's) voice erupts out of a soldier when you were least expecting it to. I'm a fan of Sutherland but I know Snake's voice to be Hayter's no other voice makes sense to my ears. This is just hopeful thinking...I digress. Eventually Big Boss betrays FOX-HOUND by sending Solid Snake into Outer Heaven (his own base) with the hopes that he won't complete the mission. I don't feel that this means Big Boss is the "bad guy". By this point Big Boss operating inside the Patriots organization but still trying to maintain the freedom that was built into Mother Base. The Patriots were enemy and they weren't a single entity/country. They eventually spread everywhere into every country/computer/firearm. Aspiring to total control, these are the Patriots these are the "bad guys". Zero and Big Boss were driven by the example that Boss left behind. Big Boss disagreed with Zero's approach to what Boss would want, that's why he splintered away from him. Remember Ocelot remained true to Big Boss ideals, till' the end. Wanting Snake to destroy SOP all the while under the guise of a schitzo, bloodthirsty maniac. A true soldier. Hopefully in the Phantom Pain we'll see how Big Boss inspires others in the same way Boss inspired him. Ocelot's relationship with Big Boss will be explored, might learn what made him so loyal to Big Boss. Maybe even small cameos will make an appearance, I believe Sniper Wolf said Big Boss saved her on the battlefield. Why not have all the "villains" from MGS1 make an appearance. Perhaps the torture will be part of the gameplay, the torturer not the one tortured. This story of Big Boss will be most intriguing. Watching how he becomes a terrible enemy on one side of the fence and a revered hero on the other. As well as his own internal struggle. After all there is no such thing as a constant enemy. Relationships are fluid regardless of what kind, changing one day/battle to the next. This series has hit on a noble and hard-hitting idea with Big Boss. Imagine a leader, a Boss you wanted to fight for, one that fought side by side, shoulder to shoulder with you. Would you then do deplorable and outright sadistic things to achieve victory, for self preservation. Do the ends justify the gritty means? Hell yes they do! Hurry up and release the Phantom Pain. First of all, i would to correct you on a few points you made. FOXHOUND was made prior to Peace Walker and directly after Portable Ops because in the game he gets the idea to build a unit to fight FOX and eventually replace them. He even states that he is a "former FOXHOUND" in Peace Walker. Hideo also told us that the torture scenes arent gonna be playable and they will able be cutscene to avoid problems like convtroversy and to be done in a "tasteful manner"(But in my opinion there's nothing tasteful about torture). But i also agree with you that in the end Big Boss wont turn into a "demon" or monster but in fact he will just be doing things that make his enemies and the rest of the world see him as such but his allies and friends will call him a hero even though they obviously wont be pretty and he'll mostly be doing them because he's angry,vengeful and maybe a little bit desperate.Thats what i think is gonna happen and i dont think Hayter will ever come back and even if we do see Solid Snake again it will be with a new voice actor with Kojima saying that he is suppose to sound "younger" and "green" in english while in Japenese they'll STILL have Akio Otsuka. The story of Big Boss does seem a little more interesting than Solid Snake's doesnt it? Well I like BB's story does seem more interesting at least to me