Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-71.251.171.55-20140112133549/@comment-1210805-20140123051411

Primarch Dysley wrote: Soul reaper wrote: Primarch Dysley wrote: Weedle McHairybug wrote: CyborgROX wrote: Solid Snake can't uh... 'make love'. He is a clone of the perfect soldier, Big Boss, and in order to prevent more 'perfect soldier' clones, the people working on the Les Enfant Terrible project (Big Boss's cloning) designed the clones so that they could not pass on their genes.

I also highly doubt the Meryl ending is the canon version, since Snake is with Otacon in MGS2 and doesn't see Meryl again until MGS4.

Finally, to put an end to this ridicules thread, Solid Snake's codename has NOTHING to do with male genitals. Technically, Snake can make love, its that he can't reproduce. There is such a thing as having sex without reproducing as a result.

Uh, actually, the Meryl ending is the canon version, for a very simple reason: In the Otacon ending, Meryl died. Since Meryl was clearly alive (not to mention In the Darkness of Shadow Moses even notes her survival) its clear the Meryl ending was canon. Technically, the Otacon ending could still work. My headcanon is that Snake only THOUGHT Meryl was dead, and she manage to escape on her own. Snake reacts with surprise when he sees her in MGS4, which could be interpreted as just "wow, it's been a while!" or "You're alive!" Aside from that, it flows with how he knows that Meryl is Campbell's daughter rather than his niece, as that was only mentioned in the Otacon ending. Official statement from Kojima or not, I still think this headcanon works (Ok that was WAY off topic, but hell, maybe it deserves a thread of its own haha) Nope. MGS4's interaction between Snake and Meryl indicates that they spent some time together after the Shadow Moses Incident before Snake suddenly up and left. The only reason he was surprised is that he didn't know the person he was meeting was Meryl. Direct quote or it didn't happen

Meryl           : Snake.

Snake           : Meryl?

Meryl           : Is that you?

Meryl           : What happened to your face?

Snake           : ''Accelerated aging. They don't know the cause.''

Meryl           : Oh my God...

Snake           : Meryl, you're my informant in the US military?

Meryl           : ''And... You must be the inspector sent by the UN.''

Snake           : You're all grown up.

Meryl           : ''Maybe it's because someone taught me well. A certain legendary hero who suddenly disappeared? You quit the unit. Me... I never gave up on you... Or on FOXHOUND. Back then, I just wanted you to accept me. I wanted you to turn around and see who I was. But... I've put the past behind. I'm done playing little love games.''

Meryl           : ''When we reported that we'd found Liquid... Our superiors ordered us to provide the UN investigators with intel. But I didn't know it'd be you.''

Snake           : Didn't the colonel tell you he was sending me?

Meryl           : Colonel?

As you can see, there's zero suggestion that Snake thought she died. He was surprised to see her, yes, but as stated Campbell neglected to tell him who he was meeting, just as Meryl wasn't aware she'd be seeing Snake. If Snake had thought her dead he would have expressed more than dull surprised. He likely would have mentioned when he next spoke to Campbell, instead of merely asking about his marriage. Furthermore the Database indicates that Meryl and Snake left Shadow Moses together.

On Snake's page: ''Though the FOXDIE virus succeeded in killing Liquid Snake and its other designated targets, its pathology vector, Solid Snake, disappeared together with new FOXHOUND recruit Meryl Silverburgh. Following this operation, Solid Snake never again worked as an official military operative.''

Following the events of Shadow Moses, Snake joined Hal Emmerich in forming the anti-Metal Gear NGO, Philanthropy.

On Meryl's page: At the end of the Shadow Moses Incident, she successfully escaped the island together with Solid Snake.

And Otacon's page merely mentions him leaving Shadow Moses behind.