Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5085906-20130627191357/@comment-6747658-20150723221145

217.186.10.129 wrote: Just remember that Raiden was also called Snake at the beginning of Sons of Liberty. Which has absolutely nothing to do with this.

217.186.10.129 wrote: Also I highly doubt that anyone would refer to Big Boss as Snake, since everyone of the higher OPS propably know him as Big Boss, the one who killed The Boss. Why should they give him the Codename Snake again? Because the Codename; Snake has been a staple of the series, every game has him called Snake, besides the Diamond Dogs call him Boss, it's Ocelot and Kaz that call him Snake.

217.186.10.129 wrote: I watched an hour explanation why V could be Fox. And after remembering so many things (since Fox's first appearance) I, too, think that it's Fox. I don't think Hideo's trolling us into thinking it could be him, there are so many hints. In all honesty, what hints? Half of PythonSelkan's "hints" are nothing more then straw grabbing. "Oh he has a ponytail! GRAY FOX CONFIRMED!" "Oh he has a third strap on his eyepatch! GRAY FOX CONFIRMED!" And again, as stated by various others in this topic, it wouldn't make any sense for us to be playing a doppleganger because this is Big Boss his story, this is his fall, his descend into evil, it would completely ruin that story if we end up playing Gray Fox.

217.186.10.129 wrote: Before destroying Rex's radom he was saying "A cornered fox is more dangerous than a jackal." and there's a boy named Jackal who's using a chair to press V to a wall but he frees himself. The kid's name is Eli, pay attention to the trailers. And so far I can recall, Eli doesn't exactly free himself when he was pinned against the wall.

217.186.10.129 wrote: Or when Snake battled him and he said: "Now we fight like warriors. Hand-to-hand it is a basic of all combat. Only a fool trusts his life to a weapon." and we can see in a trailer two Diamond Dogs fighing til one of them pulls out a knife and V gets between them. It's only logical that Big Boss steps in when a soldier draws a knife onto a fellow soldier, that happens in the real world too. The higher up steps in if a weapon is drawn between a fight of two soldiers, that's logic, common sense. That has nothing to do with Gray Fox his comment, in fact that comment was a reference as to how Solid Snake fought Gray Fox hand to hand in a minefield.

217.186.10.129 wrote: And what doesn't make any sense is Big Boss wasn't shown with a prosthetic arm or a shrapnel on the right forehead in Guns of Patriots. Well the arm couldn't be seen and maybe they could finally remove the shrapnel. And how would it make sense for Gray Fox to have the shrapnel and prosthetic arm then when he is trying to be a doppleganger of Big Boss. The purpose of such is to look exactly like the person you are mimicking, it would make no sense at all for him to be different from Big Boss then if he's trying to look exactly like him. That defeats the whole points of being a body double.

And as stated by the poster above me, Big Boss his body, as he appears in MGS4, was reconstructed by using his own body, that of Solidus and that of Liquid, so of course he would not have a prostethic arm, and as we can see in TPP, that sharpnel is steadily growing out of his head, meaning the wound is actively pushing it out.

217.186.10.129 wrote: But I doubt that Big Boss would call himself a demon, he hasn't ever done anything bad. He hasn't ever killed innocent people. And neither MSF nor Diamond Dogs or Outer Heaven were bad organisations.

And why would he not call himself a demon? His entire base was demolished, subordinates that followed him, that trusted him, lost their lives for him and because of that, he is out for revenge. Revenge is a twisted thing, it can completely change a person, look at Kaz and how obsessed he is about getting revenge, who's to say Big Boss is not the same? And not having ever killed innocent people? What? Those soldiers were just doing their jobs, regardless of what side they were on. Sure you could argue that some were bad, but ultimately (especially in Peace Walker) they were soldiers doing their jobs, tasked by their commanding officers. And canonly speaking, we know that Big Boss has killed a few of them, soldiers that had lives, families, that hoped to return after their mission was over.

MSF wasn't a bad organisation per say, but they weren't completely good either, they were mercenaries and would go into battle with other parties all over the world. Diamond Dogs, we can't really comment about since we still know little about them, but any organisation that allows the torture of people is definitely not good. Outer Heaven was bad, there is no denying about that, they had a nuclear equipped death machine with which they threatened the world, Big Boss, by then, wanted a world of eternal conflict so that soldiers would always have something to do. An organisation that wants constant was is also, definitely not good.