Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-4913740-20140331092208/@comment-25600718-20141030174107

Weedle McHairybug wrote:

185.26.182.28 wrote: I've seen some pretty well put together theories that suggest that Skullface is actually setting up the feud between BB and Zero. Going as far back as near the end of Peace Walker. Pay special attention to the conversation between Zero and Paz where Paz questions if she is even talking to Zero or not.

Obviously at some point BB and Zero realize they are being played, and Skullface is offed at some point. Following that there is some form of reconciliation, but BB obviously goes on to head Foxhound. I doubt the retcon is strong enough to avoid that major detail.

But don't forget that BB and Zero are philosophically opposed. BB is essentially an anarchist in the true sense of the word (self rule) Zero is a totalitarian. They are going to fall out again later regardless of Skullfaces false flags. There's a small problem with that theory: Skull Face mentioned he needed Paz to find Zero's location, and considering that Paz is the only one to get orders directly from Zero, it is extremely unlikely he'd be able to access Zero's comm logs, never mind pose as him specifically to instigate a fight between Zero and Big Boss. It's more likely that Zero gave even Paz orders via proxy due to his extremely paranoid nature by that point. Posing as Cipher wouldn't be that difficult so long as Skullface knew that Paz was one of his agents. All he'd need to do is "hack" her receiving equipement, presuming a radio or such.

But the oddness at the end of PW, including Cipher ordering Paz to kill BB (Remember in the Ground Zeroes tapes it says Zero would be pissed at SF if BB were killed?) is really only one piece of evidence that the whole thing is being set up by SF, to weaken Zero and put him in a vulnerable position to be exposed and finished off.

Remember MSF were due to become Zero's military. This is why SF went after BB. He knows BB from before, but the GZ tapes show that MSF was just a stepping stone on the way to Cipher, BB was in the way mostly. The grudge is with Cipher. (I think)

Sorry if I'm not being that coherent. I'm flying on coffee right now, but I will try and dig up a Youtube link which explains this far better than I have been able to.