Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5085906-20130627191357/@comment-6747658-20130701174942

78.133.44.50 wrote: Wow, you guys look like you actually hate this guy for sharing his thoughts that way... I mean, there are countless theories going around and personally I find his; one of the most plausible and backed up theories, the only difference is that he made a well-edited video instead of just writing, trying to make it more entertaining to read/watch. Well I must admit, I didn't want to reply to you solely on the fact you've been watching him for a long time and mostly seem to come over simply to defend his point....but allow me to be a good sport and counter your arguements either way.

First of all, we know Gray Fox was rescued by Big Boss sometime in the 1970's, but there is no indication what so ever that Gray Fox was fighting/working along Big Boss from that point on. Because again, if that was the case then you can count on it that Kojima would put Gray Fox into Peace Walker just like he was put into Portable Ops. Not to mention that the wiki clearly states that he was only rescued, and then a wdie gap comes with him popping up again in 1979 fighting the in the Rhodesian war (debunking the whole theory he's Ishmael in one go since he couldn't possible spent 9 years watching Big Boss when he's somewhere fighting in Africa.)

Also, I don't care what Yong agreed with, really that head looks nothing like Gray Fox, take a look at his face used for Portable Ops and the one used for the Twin Snakes, there is really no actual resemblance between that head and Gray Fox, and furthermore. If that head is a W.I.P, used on a demonstration, then why at all use it to try and lay links? It's very much possible the head was simply used for demonstration purposes only and that we wont at all actually see it in the game.

Also, I never once said it wasn't him cause of the facial hair.

As for the eye, I already said that it is completely possible for the eye color to change due to how the lighting is on them, as for Null having gray eyes...while I cannot give a good picture of him in game (seriously all the in-game pictures of him are so damn small) I can however show you some official artwork instead: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100118191748/metalgear/images/e/e7/PO_Artwork.jpg And as you look closely here, Null has gray eyes, at best light blue.

Again, there is nothing special about seeing two scenes of Big Boss right after each other, more so as I pointed out already since in the first scene he looks beaten and defeated, in the other scene he looks more detirmined. Also, this is Big Boss we are talking about, not Solid Snake. Big Boss does not have the same close friendship with Huey that Solid Snake has with Otacon, and there is no telling why Huey is being tortured, 9 years has passed and Huey may have done things that fully warrant his torture. Big Boss already comments he's already a demon and this is before the torture scenes. Furthermore we do not see Big Boss in those scenes, it may very well be that he isn't even aware of the torturing. Also we know Kaz will be fully against Chipher/Patriots in TPP, we already know from Peace Walker that he cuts his ties with them. And MG2 is still years away from happening, so it's not unlikely that something happens that turns him against Big Boss somewhere during that span of time and it doesn't at all say anything over the body double theory so that's simply unneeded information.

As for the scars, those shown on Big Boss are not at all that big like Zero's scar is, Zero's scar is at least twice the size then any scar Big Boss has (seriously it goes from his forehead to his lowerjaw). We also do not know when or how Zero got his scar but it seems to have been a deep scar, deeper scars take far longer to fade away. And if we're going to use "Why does Big Boss not have those scars later?!" well neither does Gray Fox, and don't come with the plastic surgery theory, cause that can be easily applied to Big Boss himself.

Onto the Solid Eye, not commenting on a debunk most often means admitting that he was wrong, and on that note why on earth would Big Boss turn it on with an open hand like that when you only need one finger....also there's no visible button anywhere on that eyepatch so what is he flicking on and off then?

As for the Cigar, well we already see Big Boss smoking an actual cigar in The Phantom Pain when he's on his bike, it could well mean that the electronic cigar is simply an in-game option so to advance time in a method similar like what's being used in The Elder Scroll games to wait and let time pass. As for Big Boss smoking a cigar in MGS4....really? The man is dying due to FOXDIE, why on earth would he care about health when he's already going to die in the following moments? And no, he knew that he was going to die, he was already well informed by Naomi about the New FOXDIE

As for why Vapor Snake is ridiculous, Neither Liquid nor Solid were ever refered to the VLS method, they are just codenames, and since Solid Snake used his already since MG1 and to show his twin brother off as an opposite then it's naturally that they chose Liquid because Liquid is the opposite of Solid. And no, Solidus was never refered to present Gas/Vapor but he did come from the same LET cloning Project, as it has been stated before already (and was born only months later for that matter, all three clones were born in 1972) but we know he represents something that is neither solid or liquid which is thusly similar to gas.

Also, V has come to, has mostly been accepted as meaning that MGS V has finally been revealed, we also know that Kojima himself said that V stands for Victory, which is also a reference to Big Boss as one of his alliasses gained by his men is Vic Boss

And I understood the video very well, but he refers to "true analysts" several times in his video, which he also refers himself as a true analyst because he's acting that he sees further then what is seen. And as I said, that gives the whole "holier then thou" vibe, and there is also such a thing as overanalyzing things, not every little detail has to mean something, it can be just considences or have certain meanings. Thinking that the third strap on Big Boss' eyepatch means something else other then that it sits more secure for sand storms, or that he has a ponytail when he used to never have one is overanalyzing, with YongYea said weren't exactly weak excuses, they were logical made thoughts.

Phython is completely going of on the fact that, since there are certain differences to Big Boss that we have seen before, it's instantly a body double. Yet Kojima himself has assured us that we will only be playing Snake/Big Boss since, again as said before, he does not want the same backlash he got when replacing Snake with Raiden. And it is not at all unlikely that Big Boss changed after being 9 years in coma.

It's not that I dislike or hate Python for his theories and thoughts, and I will fully admit that his first video, aside from the David Hayter comment, was interesting to watch, but his reply to YongYea really comes off as snarky and "holier then thou" with his comments. And don't think I am simply defending YongYea because I'm not, hell I facepawed when Yong refered to the thing on Eli's lap being a snake when it's clearly a shell, so Yong very well makes mistakes. I am simply going off on my own opinion over the video and merely refer to Yong's video to reference on some things he said.