Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4913740-20130707123202/@comment-1672596-20140613160058

1.64.55.108 wrote: Misterbunnsy wrote: 174.61.66.210 wrote: Misterbunnsy wrote: Has Kojima actually retconned anything with MGSV? I thought it fit into the timeline without any alteration. Among the notable things 1. although the project itself began in 1972, the Les enfante terible project now has its main timeline during big boss' 9 year coma 2. big boss was apparently going by punished/venom snake, instead of big boss. 3 the prosthetic arm was first mentioned in snakes's revenge, but is now cannon. 4. miller, like big boss, has prosthetics. The Les Enfants Terribles project still takes place in 1972. And I know there's minor details that have changed, but it still fits into the timeline without alteration. Nothing is being changed, since we never knew what BB was doing during that time. (1) I think Kojima mentioned that there will be an explanation to the inconsistancy to Big Boss' coma and the Les Enfrante terible, so why don't we wait to see how he plays it? Bare in mind that Big Boss could have more than one coma too and each coma does not necessarily have to last years. (2) I have no comment since I haven't been following this conversation in detail. (3) what was not mentioned in teh canon doesnt mean it wasnt canon before it's being first mentioned at a later time (in terms of production sequence). (4) If I am not mistaken, prior to MGS PW (production wise), we haven't seen Miller's whole body in any MGS instalments. The MGS 1 art work would probably just be interpreted as Liquid (like how Donald Anderson was interpreted as Octopus). Also, applying the principle mentioned in (3) here, Kojima doesn't have to tell you Miller has missing limbs way back in MG2SS. 1. Actually, he said there would be an explanation regarding how Big Boss got into the coma that we see in The Phantom Pain, and he said that by the time of The Phantom Pain, he only was in one coma. Also, the coma for LET was a mistranslation. 3. Actually, Big Boss having prosthetics WAS mentioned in MG2:SS, plus the database for MGS4, although the former was a rumor that was implied to be not true. 4. a. We never see Miller at all outside of the Codec. That's a very big difference between that and Donald Anderson's situation, where we actually see him, or rather, his corpse midway through the game. And besides which, Miller was wearing a completely different outfit from Liquid, anyways. Even if we argue that he changed in military-style quickness, he'd still need a container for his other set of clothes, anyways, something that there was no evidence of. And in either case, yes, Kojima does actually have to tell us that, as otherwise it was a retcon.