Board Thread:Questions and Answers/@comment-212.35.14.225-20150704132426/@comment-1672596-20150906011622

The Wikia Editor wrote: Weedle McHairybug wrote:

91.156.189.68 wrote: ^ holy crap your post is full of shit.

Konami can't say a damn thing about what is canon, it's Kojima who dictates what is, it's his saga and his legacy. And anyway, canonity isn't really an issue here, it's rather which games are part of Kojima's saga, namely which are true 'A Hideo Kojima Games'. This includes MG, MG2, MGS, MGS2, MGS3, MGS4, MPW and MGSV. It doesn't matter jack shit if your boner for MPO wants it to be canon, it's not part of Kojima's legacy, as isn't Revengeance.

This has nothing to do with about can we enjoy the games as they are, it's about this one genius of a man and his vision that he made reality. And it's been clearly stated which games in the series are a part of his saga, his will, his MEME.

"Konami decides what's canon" pfffft People said the same thing about what George Lucas views as canon, and yet look what's going on. Disney's ignoring Lucas' ideas for the sequel trilogy.

Besides, Kojima doesn't even care about his own canon, as evidenced by the amount of retcons he's made in all the games to such an extent that they rendered even the MSX2 games barely even canon. Probably the worst of it was MGSV:TPP, where he had us playing as a double MGS2 style, ruining quite a bit of the chronology in the process, for no real reason other than simply because he childishly wanted a plot twist no one would see coming. Why should he bother caring about pushing his philosophy when his own philosophy basically changes on a dime? Wait, what part of the chronology do you mean? It seems pretty straightforward. Venom Snake was the "Big Boss" that was killed at the end of the first Metal Gear game (although the real Big Boss was indeed the one giving Snake commands through his codec) and the real Big Boss was fought and severely burned at the end of the second Metal Gear game.

As for retcons, that's pretty much a given to be honest. Kojima himself has admitted that he tends to retcon past events in the games if he thinks it makes the current story he's writing better (e.i. Big Boss' age in MGS3, Big Boss telling Solid Snake he's his father, Kaz Miller's backstory). He never really retcons it to the point that the chronologically later games become impossible.

Portable Ops as a whole is canon, the "details" he mentioned refers to stuff that later Metal Gear games may retcon, but there is no controversy about the game as a whole. How about the fact that because of this, especially the bit about how EVA, Ocelot, and possibly even Big Boss knew all about Zero not actually being responsible for the events during the 1990s, they basically came across as huge liars to Snake, thus utterly ruining one of the more redeemable aspects of Metal Gear Solid 4 and actually made Snake even more of a tool than before? Or how about the fact that the whole thing with Venom Snake basically made the LET project and S3 Plans pointless? Not to mention made Big Boss exceedingly out of character as well.