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I didn't think of that, thanks Weedle.

As for the Philosophers, they're not really a big organisation as far as the wider scope of the series goes. The Patriots are referenced as early as MGS1, if not earleir, and the Philosophers are unknown until MGS3.

I don't remember the mentioning of the Patriots being the revived American branch of the Philosophers.