Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25168690-20160312223141/@comment-26985269-20160328070440

Samuspartan wrote: Black Chamber Bison wrote: Samuspartan wrote: Black Chamber Bison wrote: Samuspartan wrote: like pythonslekan pretenting Venom is Gray Fox I'm gonna pretend that Venoms is the real Big Boss and Ishmael was just a hallucination :P Well, we can theorize. But we do see Ishmael become Big Boss in a scene that Venom wasn't present for. Most of the hallucinations are revealed when Venom is awake and on screen. But if the whole game was really Gray Fox hooked to a VR machine it'd invalidate everything we theorized about the game up until this point. then I'll be like those stubborn A"##holes who refuse to listen to reason and keep pretending Venom Snake is Big Boss hahahahahahahahahhahaha I think that Gray Fox can't be venom because Venom's entire existance was just to correct the simple plot hole as to why Big Boss returns in MG2 people kept complaining about how come he survived, and if gray Fox where to be Venom then the plot hole would still be there because once again we have to know how the hell did he survive I agree but think people are disappointed with Venom because as someone mentioned it goes against the rule of there being only one Boss and one Snake like the games have shown. There were two Snakes and two Bosses the whole time even though Big Boss was against clones and being used by the Patriots on the world stage. If Chapter 2 was a lie and Chapter 3 proved that then people who didn't like the plot twist would be okay with the story again. I do agree with you on that Venom's existence invalidates the whole "one boss and one snake" because he is Big Boss as well, and well if a random medic can become Big Boss if he is brainwashed into beleiving he is then why the clones? they can just start brain washing people and bingo an army of Big Bosses hahahahahahah

and I can't really acept the whole Venom is you for one small and stupid reason... and that is if Venom is truly me, then that means he not only got a face change but he got a sex change as well... I laughed off the Gray Fox theory for being too fanservicey but it made more sense than Venom being just a double. Gray Fox was messed up in the head from being experimented on. The rule for every game since MGS is there can only be one Boss and one Snake. That's the rule Kojima established and made us believe meant something until MGSV. Is that the betrayal we're supposed to feel or is it one of those retcon deals?

But Python and Selkan forget the reason Kojima stated he would not use Gray Fox is because the Japanese voice actor for Gray Fox died.

But yeah... Venom being the player wasn't very well thought out. How much surgery did the doctors do to make Venom identical? Did they change the size of Venom's "snake" to match Naked Snake's?...