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209.179.104.95 wrote: Well, if you go into Revolutionism derived from that madman Jean-Jacques Rousseau (ie, French Revolution, Russian Revolution, Chinese Revolution, Vietnamese Revolution, Cuban "Revolution" (I'm deliberately putting it in quotes, and I'll explain why later), I guess Che does perfectly embody revolutionary spirit in the sense that he was a bloodthirsty psychopath.

You might have noticed that I put quotes in the Cuban Revolution (the Revolution part, more specifically). That's because it wasn't a Revolutionary War, or even an actual war at all, as several Cubans, from both sides of the fight I should mention, can attest to today. It was actually closer to a schoolyard fight, and there was only one actual casualty in battle, on Che's side, no less. The only reason why it was labelled as such was because of some paid shills at journalistic papers such as the New York Times simply claimed it to be so by Castro's words, and he basically duped them. It was a war in the sense that propaganda and PR made it so.

I also don't recall Big Boss and the MSF being devout supporters of Communism or Marxism or whatever people wish to call it today and trying to spread that. If anything, given Big Boss's experiences in Snake Eater, he most certainly would not have even allowed Marxism to exist. And although Big Boss did contain nukes, he wasn't the type to actually launch them and provoke war, unlike Volgin or Che. If he had, MG2 would have been a far different story. He had enough nukes, whether stolen or created depending on the source, to wage war against the world, yet two years passed since he formed Zanzibar Land and created Metal Gear, and he still hadn't even threatened to the UN or the US or whomever unlike his son Liquid? That strikes me as a bit odd for a guy who would try to declare nuclear war.

Also, a lot of the people who fought Che were people who knew about his actions and heinous crimes. Heck, the place he met his doom actually had him being extremely unpopular by its citizens, especially because of his Marxist ideology. Given that Big Boss seemed to have his soldiers being extremely loyal to him, and not out of fear, (Kyle Schneider and even the Outer Heaven Resistance joined him willingly, for example, despite being enemies to him beforehand), even his older self was not like Che at all (had he been like Che at that time, most likely they would have all been killed. In fact, killing his enemies when defenseless was exactly what Che did after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion. His eyes according to an eyewitness beamed when he declared that they should be hung instead of shot so they'd die "slowly and painfully."), and if we buy some things written about him, he had an extremely poor relationship with his troops as well. For instance, an incident that occurred during Cuba had Che going to an outpost to take command of a 26th of July movement, yet his unit refused his command, citing that Che was a foreigner, someone they weren't willing to listen to, and also indicated that even if he was one of their own, he and Castro were very cowardly regarding Batista (When Che commented that he had more experience than them, Sotus shot back "Yeah, more experience at running away and hiding from Batista's forces" or something along those lines). Another revolutionary thing he was involved in also had his second in command at the time, Jesus Carreras, almost getting into a fight with him after he overheard Che making some rather unflattering statements about him. Jesus before then was also very wary about Che for his Marxist beliefs.

I have plenty of sources backing up my claims. Again, my main concern was why Kazuhira Miller would be a fanboy of Che, despite his character both during Peace Walker and his characterization from MG2 being so... well, unlike anyone who would support Che Guevara, so I don't really expect to change your mind nor try to do so (even if I did, I doubt it'd work anyways, even if I supplied the most logical argument I could give). However, at least take a look at the documented sources so you'd get a firm understanding of where I'm coming from. For the record, I also doubt we were imperialist. Actually, the West generally maintained that they should be free. Marxism won't allow freedom and in fact is the Imperialistic one. Otherwise, why is it that the Soviet Union spent most of its time physically conquering its neighbors? Vietnam also spent its time conquering its neighbors as well after we were forced to remove our influence from Vietnam completely. A North Vietnamese officer who defected at one point also stated that Ho Chi Minh was truly communistic and not simply nationalistic, and even cited that he wanted to conquer Vietnam, not simply reunite it. Here are my sources for the Che stuff at least, and possibly Vietnam:

The Politically Incorrect Guide to Vietnam

The Politically Incorrect Guide to the 1960s

Who was the REAL Che by Ion Mihai Pacepa: http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=33786

Leftwing Monsters: Che Guevara @ Discover the Networks: http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2054

Tune In, Turn On, Get Shot: http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=33933

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2011/04/20/Che-Guevara-at-the-Bay-of-Pigs http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2010/03/30/Apple-Boycotts-Glenn-BeckPromotes-Che-Guevara http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2011/08/17/Rise-of-the-Apes-Director--Films-Hero-Inspired-by-Che-Guevara http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2011/01/30/Whole-Lotta-Stupidity---Jimmy-Page-Visits-Cuba--Honors-Che-Guevara http://pjmedia.com/blog/will-the-real-che-guevara-please-stand-up/ http://www.therealcuba.com/MurderedbyChe.htm http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-486423/The-truth-modern-legend-Che-Guevara-man-hunted-down.html

http://trenblindado.com/Story.html

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2011/05/07/Castro-and-Che---s-Foiled--and-Forgotten--9-11

I intend to fight and get rid of Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, and Atheism wherever they may lie, foreign and domestic. I am devoted to getting rid of those sick beliefs for my Christian brethren, because they were among those persecuted by those ideologies. I also have a major distrust of Democracy, since its because of Democracy that many of us had our heads decapitated and kicked around like soccerballs in France, shortly after the French Revolution, thanks to Rousseau's sick beliefs, sick beliefs that influenced Marxism and pretty much all Leftist thinking. That's what motivates me to stop the worship of such monsters like Robespierre, Che, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler (Yes, contrary to what is often said, Hitler was Left Wing, as he endorsed Socialism. He may be to the Right of Stalin, but that doesn't mean he is a right-winger), and the like. While I myself have not been subject to those kinds of experiences, I do personally know people who have personally experienced it or acted as witnesses to it, such as one of the Janitors at Elementary and Middle school (Vietnamese), a Polish priest named Father Adam, and my uncle's discovery of this during a trip to the Soviet Union as part of delegation for the Carter administration. If you don't agree with me, fine, probably won't matter seeing how most of my life on the web had many people mocking me for my beliefs anyways, but at least look at those sources so you at least get an understanding on what I'm talking about regarding Che. Was a damn good read!

Also, the Richard Dawkins and Meme (pseudoscience) stuff Kojima allowed to be in one particullar codec sequence in Metal Gear Rising Revengeance made me sick. Hideo Kojima simply does not know (like the characters ingame) what a disgustig, missleading  perverted monster this guy in real life is. At least he was sorry about being such an El Che fanboy in Peace Walker. Just like with Dawkins and the topic of memes, he was not well informed about Che Guevara. Hope he learns about it.