Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5085906-20130627191357/@comment-177.249.101.8-20140712004841

Mr. Grave wrote: 177.249.101.8 wrote:                                                                                        "Big boss smokes fake cigar, Body double confirmed" They did try this once, but turns out Big Boss smokes electronic cigars in the field because they leave no trails behind. The guy in the 30 minute Kojima Station gameplay explained that very well. Yes I am aware of that, but read the comments on the video, people are still claiming that the phantom cigar is further proof that venom snake is no t big boss, just take a look at this:

"When looking at every so far, im convinced this is a new snake/doppelganger

1. "Punished" Snake is now "Venom" Snake

2. Big Boss smoking e-cigars when he specifically has said he does not like imitation and rejected smoking them when offered

3. "From FOX, two phantoms were born" "A phantom battle waged by the vanished" The very name of the game suggests more than what we are seeing, it won't just be a revenge story of how Big Boss became who he was before Solid Snake came into the picture

4. The fact that Grey fox has yet to make an appearance canonically in the series, especially with him being an integral part, Quiet obviously ties into Sniper Wolf's story, hence she probably gives him the nickname "Saladin"

5. The face marks/voice change, everything in an MGS game is critical and this is around the time of nano-machines being built and used. The real Big Boss can still grow old with Hayter's voice but with the war on Cipher/Zero and finding out about Liquid and Solid, can use nano-machines or medicine to change his voice to Richard Doyle, Kiefer Sutherland type etc to cloak himself

6. Metal Gear is all about the story being more than what is on the surface, every game has something hidden to it with a greater meaning and a whole lot of damn trolling by Kojima, this is the one game where people are losing their minds over something Kojima has done regularly and doesnt want any hidden surprises, even the most diehard fans are tired of being trolled in every damn game LMAO well get ready cause Phantom Pain is gonna mind fuck us all﻿." comment taken from here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22m1bI1uV14