Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-86.46.22.35-20130403153709/@comment-64.33.250.214-20140730233324

96.59.223.143 wrote: 64.33.250.214 wrote: Weedle McHairybug wrote:

64.33.250.214 wrote:

Weedle McHairybug wrote:

Theultimaterebol wrote: I'll look into it sometime but ultimately the les enfants terribles project started in the 70s and kojima isn't keen on changing solid snakes origins or what would seem to be liquids he wouldn't make solidus the dominant gene receiver if he was born in the 60s like chico and therefore would probably be different person altogether and not a clone of big boss chico as born in 67 and is honestly nowhere near close to resembling big boss plus chico is Nicaraguan whereas solidus is american/Japanese Agreed overall, though we really don't know if Solidus has the Japanese mitochondrial DNA in his makeup. For all we know, he may have gotten a different egg cell from a different woman, and a different foster mother as well. Kojima already retconned the LET by having it occur before Big Boss's coma.

Solidus's early years are unknown. We don't know he was never Nicaraguan. For all we know he lived in Timbuktu before heading to the States.

We've not seen Big Boss as a child to make a fair comparison. Chico has green eyes and brown hair, as does Solid, Liquid, and presumably Solidus. Technically, no, Big Boss having a coma before LET was not "retconned" because it never happened at all. It was the invention of the localization team at Konami for Metal Gear Solid, and was one of the few add-ins that was retained for The Twin Snakes, a game that actually tried to reflect the original Japanese script more closely. In the Japanese version, Liquid only stated that Big Boss became sterile from a combat wound and thus they needed to clone him.

We know thanks to Rising that he was a member of the CIA Paramilitaries around the time of the Liberia Civil War, when he orphaned Raiden and took him as his "godson", used him as a child soldier and all of that. As far as technicalities go, that's a HUGE one. Kojima allowed the localization to be retained in Twin Snakes. He had some input in the matter, and even if he didn't, he could have upheld the localization that many of us became accustomed to. Like with most of the sequels, Kojima didn't anticipate making games up to Peace Walker or MGSV. So it's a retcon in limbo, neither being retcon nor adhering to previously established information.

Solidus worked with the CIA during the late 80s, but we know nothing before that time period. The Patriots dispatched to clones to varying locations. Eli, who most suspect is Liquid, somehow finds his way to Africa. Liquid was moved to England and eventually ends up in Afghanistan. Solidus eventually ends up in Liberia. Where and how he was raised as a child remains a mystery.

Liquid went to Iraq, not Afghanistan. Either way, you get the point. The clones were scattered to various locals around the globe. Many of us assume by now that Eli is Liquid. Considering a good portion of Phantom Pain takes place in Afghanistan, Eli/Liquid could very well appear there. For that matter, it hasn't been confirmed (to my knowledge) whether we find Eli in Africa or Afghanistan. Liquid said, "In the Middle East we don't hunt foxes, we hunt jackals." Eli wears a necklace of what looks like jackal teeth.