User talk:Weedle McHairybug/Archive 2

Town
There was definitely something atop that bus, that I can guarantee. --Bluerock 23:30, December 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, all I know is that it's not there whenever I try to look for it. I also mentioned it to someone else, and the closest thing to something matching that description are smoke grenades. Weedle McHairybug 23:33, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * I posted the spy report for the XM177E2 in the article and can confirm it was located there. However, I believe it only appeared there after I recieved the report. Maybe it is only in the EU version as you said, and if so, I wonder if there are some other EU exclusive missions. --Bluerock 10:01, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Another question? MGS4 OST
Here's another question. Where can you buy the MGS4 Soundtrack? Besides Ebay and Amazon? How much would it cost? Hope not over $50 dollars.

Hmm?
Still nothing yet. Hmm.. was it that hard. I guess so. carry on.


 * Sorry, I forgot all about it. I may have to write a memo near my computer reminding me of researching the cutscene amount. I am curious about one thing, though. I wondered why you didn't try to do the research yourself? Weedle McHairybug 21:18, January 23, 2011 (UTC)
 * I would tell you the answer. But what fun would that be?
 * I would tell you the answer. But what fun would that be?

Another thing Trivia Spoiler
You know it just occurred to me that Ocelot does look like either his father or his mother. Colonel Volgin Solid Snake and Hal Emmerich all look like their parents in some way and Ocelot doesn't. Weird ain't it?

If you don't already know this. But that Haven Cyborg in the MGS Rising trailer was based off some designs in the MGS4 Art book.

Thanks
Just stopping by to say thank you for letting me know of the spam I was getting on that blog. I went ahead and blocked comments on it for now (didn't see anyway to delete the comments), or maybe I'll just start a new one and replace that one. Anyways, have a nice day.

Thanks x 2
What a very good and useful contributor I must say. You do fix up the minor things that can be overlooked at times. At least you understand the fact there are two different Commandos (as shown in Versus Ops, Commando and R.Commando) in MGS: Peace Walker. Sometimes I believe anonymous editing shouldn't be allowed. Do keep up your effort!

- Uncle269

I personally don't want to get into legal troubles so I avoid them where possible. That's why I take pictures using the in-game camera which is unfortunately branded with the MGSPW logo. I would post direct links to pictures as a next resort. Why am I making references to MGS gameplay... But really this is personal opinion.

Uncle269 23:40, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, Ok! I'm sorry.
It's just that what Mller said made me think he was talking about their headquarters due to the place being in Colombia and also due to the place looking like crap. The roof leaked water. I didn't think he knew about what happened in 1970. 98.221.196.38 13:09, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's all right. It was probably a confusing line, anyways. Besides, if Miller knew about Snake Eater, it's probably certain that he'd at least know some details about San Hieronymo. Weedle McHairybug 13:12, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Peace Walker Incident
Hey Weedle, it would be really great if you could help trim down some of the article, since it really is too detailed to be of much use to anyone. Just recap the main events without too many specifics, which can always be dealed with in other, more relevant, pages (and probably already are). Take a look at my edits to the first sections as an example, if need be. Thanks. --Bluerock 20:18, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Getting screenshots from Portable Ops
No sorry man I have no idea how to get screenshots from MPO. I only use what I can get e.g. Camera in MGSPW. You best ask the ones who managed to get pictures some other way. I merely suggest pictures be used to compliment articles with lots of text.

Uncle269 00:52, February 2, 2011 (UTC) Uncle269


 * You could try using a PSP AV cable to connect it to a tv. I've seen them for sale for I think around $30 could be mistaken about the price. If you connect it to a DVD recorder you could record gameplay footage and use your computer to take screenshots of the footage.--Soul reaper 01:48, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * If it allows me to take pictures without having to utilize a digital camera (since if I try to do that, most likely it will end up not having a good focus), I'll do it. I don't know how I am supposed to do some of the screenshots of Portable Ops. I've seen people take screenshots from the games, but I really don't know how they do it, especially when it doesn't even include an in-game camera. Weedle McHairybug 01:51, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

You're an idiot who didn't even play the game.
You can clearly see her in tears when she sees the pyx destroyed, when Ocelot crushes the apple and when her "children" die. She says "ADAM" and gives Ocelot the apple, thinking he will come back but Ocelot crushes the apple, causing EVA to cry and think that Liquid still "possesses" him. Being involved in the plan does NOT mean she knew everything. Play the game, kid. --98.221.196.38 22:14, February 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Big Boss said "their grand scheme", and then described EVA recovering his body as well as Ocelot faking possession. You don't say "Their grand scheme" in reference to those things if she didn't plan those portions. And for the record, I've watched those cutscenes, and just because she was crying doesn't mean that she was sincere in her tears. Heck, the Joker once sobbed real tears when explaining one of his freudian excuses, and yet it is unlikely to be true due to his retelling it every time. Also, their grand scheme would imply that she helped come up with the plan. Why say "their grand scheme" if she wasn't even the one who helped plan it? They could have just settled with Ocelot's grand scheme just to make it quite clear that Ocleot was the one who planned it and kept EVA in the dark. Weedle McHairybug 22:20, February 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Work on your memory. He only said that she RECOVERED his body. He didn't say anything about her knowing that Ocelot was not possessed. And what the Joker did is irrelevant to the game. What one character does is irrelevant to another character. --98.221.196.38 22:24, February 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * "Big Boss: "For me, for them, for Naomi, nothing was more important. And it was for that that they put their grand scheme into motion. EVA stole my body from them, and reconstructed it by replacing the missing parts with pieces from Liquid and Solidus. And Ocelot... in order to fool the system, used nanomachines and psychotherapy to transplant Liquid's personality onto his own." Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (2008)."
 * If they wanted to make it clear that EVA, even if she was involved, did not know about Ocelot faking possession, this would have been how they worded it:
 * "Big Boss: "For me, for them, for Naomi, nothing was more important. And it was for that that Ocelot and Naomi put their grand scheme into motion. EVA stole my body from them, and reconstructed it by replacing the missing parts with pieces from Liquid and Solidus. And Ocelot... in order to fool the system, used nanomachines and psychotherapy to transplant Liquid's personality onto his own." Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (2008)."
 * That way, they would have made it clear that EVA was at best only a pawn in terms of involvement and truly didn't know about the whole plan, and only Ocelot and Naomi truly knew of it. Weedle McHairybug 22:28, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, too bad. They didn't. Why is it that autism causes people to be so anal about details? I have atypical autism but even that doesn't make me anal. By the way, I suggest you buy the MGS4 Limited Edition Collector's guide. It confirms that EVA didn't know that Ocelot was faking his possession. It says that she died truly believing that Liquid had taken him over. Hideo Kojima even writes a bit in the book. Dumbass. Anyway, I've added the information to the trivia section. Happy now? --98.221.196.38 22:31, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that it is at least mentioned somewhere other than the main article (although personally, I would have put it in the unconfirmed section for various reasons). However, if I recall correctly, weren't you the one who told me that I couldn't count the MGS, the MGS2, and the MGS4 novelizations as canon even if Hideo Kojima contibuted to the novel in terms of at least one chapter due to Hideo Kojima even being involved in at least one noncanon game? Plus, you yourself also told Fantomas that R should not be considered canon in regards to Big Boss's real name being John Doe. We also take the Metal Gear Solid Official Missions Handbook with a grain of salt despite Hideo Kojima writing a bit in it as well. I just can't see the difference between the above and the MGS4 handbook that would make it canon, that's all. BTW, if I know this guide correctly, wasn't this the Piggyback guidebook to Metal Gear Solid 4? I'm asking because that did have an entire exposition on the series nearing the end of the guide, and seems to match up with your description, and if so, I do have that guide. Weedle McHairybug 23:13, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I also noticed something else that might throw a wrench into your theory. For one thing, if she didn't know the overall plan, why did she show Snake Solidus's corpse/braindead body/whatever instead of Big Boss's actual body and claim that it was Big Boss's body? The only two explainations I could give are that she is either A. Senile (which would cast doubts on why she is even continuing to lead the Paradise Lost Army in the first place), or B. was lying to Snake (which makes somewhat more sense than Senility, since that should prevent her from leading the Paradise Lost Army), which the latter account also causes problems as to why she would even lie to Snake, especially if she wasn't even fully in on the plan. Weedle McHairybug 01:19, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * I suggest you work on your patronizing attitude and fix your memory. EVA TOLD Snake after he killed Raging Raven that the body in the van was not Solidus'. All three vans were decoys. Big Boss' was in the pyx. Didn't you watch the cutscenes? Also, the official handbook WAS canon in 1998. However, Snake Eater and Peace Walker completely retconned Big Boss's background. He would have had to be the drummer boy if he fought in World War 2. And the database completely ignores most of the other character's profiles in the book. Also the database only says that Big Boss' real name is John, not John Doe. I have a feeling EVA might be involved in Rising. --98.221.196.38 13:11, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Here's another wrench in your theories. The novel is not canon for several reasons. 1: Naomi immediately knows that Big Boss is Solid Snake's father. In the game, she doesn't even know about that until later. 2: Snake is sent to some funhouse while fighting Psycho Mantis. In the game, this never happens. 3: Gray Fox is never crushed by REX. In the game, he is. 4: Otacon tells Snake about Emma. In the game, Otacon doesn't tell him that until MGS2. 5: Dr Clark created nine batches of clones. In MGS4, it is confirmed that she only created ONE batch. 6: Miller says he fought in Vietnam. In Peace Walker, it was his half brother who actually fought in Vietnam. Anyway, Bluerock edited EVA's page. My information will stay in the trivia section. Bye. --98.221.196.38 13:09, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Using a different computer here, since I'm at GPC rather than my house.


 * Anyways, I was talking about before the Raging Raven chase, when she was showing Snake the body in the van shortly after she told Snake a bit about the history of the Patriots, but before Liquid even arrived. I'll even supply you with the quote, just to prove it.
 * "Snake : Liquid is after Big Boss's body. Is it here?


 * Big Mama : I'll take you to meet him.


 * [Big Mama walks over to the back of one of several black vans parked within the

courtyard of the church.]


 * Big Mama : This is his pyx. His Holy Ark.


 * [Big Mama opens the backdoors of the van to reveal what appears to be some

miniature ICU with skinless body with almost no limbs layed down on a bed. Snake attempts to reach over to touch the body, but it suddenly begins to spasm as soon as his hand gets close.]


 * Big Mama : His body is alive, but his consciousness is locked away by

nanomachines. So technically speaking, he's not really brain dead. We can't allow Liquid to inherit the same sins that corrupted Zero... Manipulating people's minds for the sake of his own ego."


 * She explicitly referred to the van containing Solidus as being Big Boss's ark, and also mentioned that he was Big Boss.
 * One other thing, if I recall correctly, they only made one successful batch in the novel (the previous eight were failures), and I'm pretty sure you mentioned when editing it that EVA mentioned that, after countless failures, they bore fruit with Solid and Liquid. It's also possible that Liquid may have briefly lied about that. Also, some things from the strategy guide were also incorporated into the Database, as well. And I thought you stated that how Psycho Mantis fought Snake in the novel was more canon than in the game, since you said that 4th wall breaks weren't actually canon to the story. Last of all, don't call me an idiot. If I were an idiot, I would have flunked Kindergarden, never mind not graduate from High School. And I at least research things for Metal Gear Solid 4. Do you honestly think I could play MGS4 if I didn't even have a PS3? This is the best I can do, especially seeing how consoles can't be rented anymore (believe me, I tried). I also forgot one thing, although I may have stated it before, a KP podcast mentioned that Hideo Kojima was directly involved in the creation of the first chapter of the first novel, so at the very least, the first chapter of the novel was canon. Weedle McHairybug


 * Ignore Anon's constant criticism of having not played the game; it's completely irrelevent for most discussions. Besides which, he has previously edited the Metal Gear Acid pages, solely based on viewing online info, despite never playing the games, so you aren't the only one.
 * The explanations given in the games are always extremely convoluted and lacking in detail, so any confusion about it is entirely understandable.
 * --Bluerock 13:32, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Categories
Remember to categorize any new pages, e.g. [Category:Equipment]. --Bluerock 09:10, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Codec
I think you should discuss more about the Codec on a talk page, as the character limit of the edit comment always cuts off the points that you're trying to make.

Anyway, from what I can gather from the games, the Codec is simply a more advanced radio communication system, rather than specific piece of equipment. While it appeared to be operated by nanomachines in some cases (the nanocommunication that was first introduced in MGS2), this is not the exclusive method by which it functions, as both Naomi and Meryl obtain Codec devices for use in MGS1. It could also be possible that the nanomachine-based Codec was developed post-MGS1, for use by Raiden and other government personnel. --Bluerock 01:12, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * If I recall correctly, I think the Codec also was able to transfer digital camera photos, going by Otacon's original plan on transferring the RAY photos (before they discovered that the Patriots were attempting to hack into and monitor their communications) as well as how Snake transferred that photo he took of Sergei Gurlukovich to Otacon for him to ID. Something like that shouldn't be possible if it was nanomachine based. Also, didn't Snake mention something to Mei Ling about how, if she didn't invent the Codec, Snake "wouldn't have been able to talk to [Mei Ling] like this.", which wouldn't make sense if the Codec was, similar to a radio, audio-only, since that would still make it similar to any other radio. Well, in either case, I don't think the Codec being primarily nanomachine based should be mentioned under FOXHOUND equipment since FOXHOUND was disbanded by the time the Codec did actually become primarily nanomachine based.


 * BTW, when is this site going to fix its add article function? I'm asking because I was trying to add in an article about the RPG-2 (in fact, I have a word document created to store my attempt at an article), and every time I try to upload it, I go onto a glitched "create a new article page." Weedle McHairybug 01:56, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * I would say that nanocommunication was merely one of the Codec's functions then, and not an integral part of its normal operation. I agree, references to nanomachine-based Codecs should be removed from the FOXHOUND equipment, since no evidence suggests it was in use at the time by either FOXHOUND or Snake in MGS1.


 * By the way, I created the RPG-2 page for you to add content to. Not sure why it was glitching on your end, though the page had been deleted previously due to solely consisting of vandalism. --Bluerock 03:35, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

You got the Japanese version of Peace Walker?
When did you how to read Japanese?


 * Although I did buy it on Ebay, I have not actually received it in the mail yet. It should come in by February 16 at the earliest. Also, I've been learning Japanese since last summer, and I also attempted to teach myself Japanese online during High School. Weedle McHairybug 19:40, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Cool, please post any information about the Dorito and Pepsi briefing files if you ever get a chance. I think it's pretty stupid that companies don't care if their products are only referenced in Japan. Also, happy birthday. It's cool that you were born on Valentine's Day. --98.221.196.38 14:14, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll try to do that. At least when playing the actual game, I can actually read and transliterate, then translate, the Japanese conversation of those briefing tapes rather than have to rely on a grainy youtube video where the text is barely legible. Now, I'll probably have some trouble with Kanji, mostly because that one is more recent, but also because Kanji, at least in my workbook, could mean several things depending on the context. And thanks. Weedle McHairybug 16:04, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Man
Man. If this is too hard for you then I understand. if all else fails remember one thing.

Destrucity. Get it?


 * It will take some time to process all the cutscenes, but I'll do it. I'll also make sure I sticky-tab a memo onto my computer (literally) reminding me to analyze any Metal Gear Solid 2, 3, and 4 cutscenes, as well as Portable Ops.


 * In the meantime, I'll tell you that there are... 35 cutscenes in Peace Walker, at least according to the cutscene theater. Weedle McHairybug 00:49, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, 47+35 cutscenes (since you told me to add them all up) equates to about 82, meaning that, going by Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker combined, that's the total so far. Weedle McHairybug 00:53, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * You didn't get the Destrucity part did you?

The Second UMGS Question.
Okay he're another kick you in the nuts type question.

After you tally up the cutscene all the cutscenes in order for you to tell me how many cutscenes in all.

The second UMG Question is.

How long would it take you to watch the all cutscenes in order from start to finish?

Or better yet how many hours would it take to watch all of them?

Starting from chronological order. Metal Gear Solid 3 to Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of The Patriots.

Don't worry. Bathroom breaks are requested.

If it sounds like I'm throwing extra weight on to your research then I am. Trust me it will help me sleep at night knowing your the only smart enough to do it.

PKM info
I use the following site as one of my primary sources of information on firearms:

http://world.guns.ru/machine/rus/kalashnikov-pk-pkm-e.html

I don't have access to much hard copy literature.

Uncle269 01:59, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

What is TSENTR?
I can't find anything about it. --98.221.196.38 20:19, February 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * I really couldn't find anything about it either. If I had to guess, I'd have to say it is Lubyanka. Weedle McHairybug 20:21, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Here's the conversation you requested
http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Solid_3_radio_conversations#Cigarette_narcosis_gun

I'll try to get Raikov's conversations as soon as I can. I assume you have a Nintendo Game Cube due to the fact that you played at least Resident Evil 4. You should at least buy or rent The Twin Snakes whenever you have time.--98.221.196.38 20:05, March 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. And you're right in that I have a Nintendo Gamecube. However, I don't recall ever mentioning that I played RE4 (which I don't, BTW.). Well, in either case, good luck.


 * I will mention something else though. You kinda told someone to slit their own throat. That's not cool at all. I mean, I disagree with several people, including Ether101, Cybercubed, and PDL, but even I don't try to tell them to slit their own throat or do some harm onto themselves. Heck, I don't even do it with you, either, even when you irritate me.


 * Also, if you have the time, were there any sources to, I don't know, Kojima stating that Solidus basing his raising on Child Soldiers on Big Boss, the Metal Gear Solid 1 & 2 comics being absolute canon, Liquid Snake and everyone else apparently lying about Solid Snake enjoying all the killing, and Big Boss being compared to Darth Vader/being pure evil while Solid Snake is pure good? I'm asking because Ether101 mentioned that Kojima allegedly stated these things, and I need to verify if these are actually stated and not stuff he made up, especially seeing how he doesn't even bother citing sources to his claims. A link will be fine, if not a printed article stating this, and I'll take care of the rest myself. I'm also asking because he doesn't seem to back it up with sources besides saying Kojima said this or something like that, and also dismisses In the Darkness of Shadow Moses as absolute crap. I just need to verify if these claims are true and indeed verifiable, since saying "Kojima said this" doesn't seem to cut it for me, especially when I was raised to require far more than "so-and-so said this." to cite sources. Weedle McHairybug 21:55, March 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Meh, I'm a lunatic. Sad but true. Anyway, I remember that you and I have disagreed about Jack Krauser's fate.

http://residentevil.wikia.com/index.php?title=Jack_Krauser&diff=106410&oldid=106408

I assumed you played the game. Anyway, I honestly have no idea whether Hideo Kojima said all that. I've never even of that stuff. I've never read the comics. I dob't consider In the Darkness of Shadow Moses to be crap. --98.221.196.38 22:00, March 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I namely disagreed on his fate simply by reading up on info and analyzing it in a similar fashion to a computer. I wasn't certain if you knew any of that, but I thought you'd know since you seemed somewhat well versed in Metal Gear stuff. Anyways, sorry to hear that about you, although just for the record, you may have disagreed with Bluerock on issues somewhat violently, but I've had it far worse back on BMGf and SPPf. Namely, they would mock and tear me down for no other reason than just because I'm a Misty fan who actually does intend to bring her back. On at least two occasions on BMGf, I was even sent to the Hall of Shame where they viciously mocked me as well as her. First time, I suggested a boycott based on the American revolution (hey, better than basing it on fiction, anyways), and despite doing everything to help them bring Misty back, the people in charge of the Misty club on that site, like Kasumi, one of the co-founders of the Misty club, repaid my attempt to help by stabbing me in the back and sending me there to be outright mocked and bashed, without my input. On SPPf, I had a three month ban once because one of the moderators viciously bashed my arguement (even hinting that the 900 signatures I got legitimately from other people at my school was just me signing it 900 times) and I was the scapegoat. Its as if the only reason Misty fans are even allowed on those sites is as hunting quarry. Weedle McHairybug 22:13, March 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I never said I was well versed in Metal Gear stuff. I'm a fan of several game series. Basically Syphon Filter, Metal Gear, Max Payne, Resident Evil and Splinter Cell. I don't have a Wii so I haven't played the Chronicles games of Resident Evil. I didn't know you were such a Pokemon fan. I was a big fan of the show back in 1999-2000. Everyone in school used to have cards and would trade them. Good times. Anyway, hall of shame? Strange website.

Anyway, forgive me for asking but how exactly are you autistic? You do tend to be anal about details but other than that, you appear to be somewhat intelligent and you are definitely sociable and friendly. I flapped my hands when I was a kid and I didn't speak full sentences until I was 3. According to papers, I have Pervasive Development Disorder and Atypical Autism. Go figure. --98.221.196.38 22:37, March 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I stopped talking abruptly at a young age, which led to autism. And I may be sociable around computers, but trust me, I'm not nearly as good at being sociable as most normal people. There are various levels of Autism in either case, so I usually get very irritated whenever people imply that someone who has autism = someone with mental retardation, since that is not the case. I can't really say why I'm friendly other than that I am. Weedle McHairybug 22:50, March 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Got it. And here's the Raikov sentence. That's all I got in regards to Raikov being unconscious.

Zero: ''Be careful not to wake Raikov up while dragging him. And make sure you're not seen by enemy soldiers or scientists."''

Since when did you read what I type?
You usually ignore everything I type. Anyway, what's an egalitarian? 98.221.196.38 13:41, March 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * To give a definition from the dictionary, an egalitarian is someone or something that is asserting, resulting from, or characterized by belief in the equality of all people, esp. in political, economic, or social life. Under that definition, it also makes it so that concepts shouldn't have a few be applicable when the rest of those same examples are not applicable unless for a very, very good reason (or at least a reason that makes sense). And while I don't usually respond to what you say, that doesn't necessarily mean I ignore it. Plus, there have been other instances where I responded anyways. Weedle McHairybug 13:54, March 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Sorry, I've never heard of the word before. I'm not in college either so please excuse my ignorance in regards to certain words. I have heard the expression "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" though. --98.221.196.38 14:01, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

You know what.
You know what would be fun. If Deadpool was in a Metal Gear game. The Legendary Hero Solid Snake meets

The Merc with the Mouth. Wouldn't that be fun?

Did you finish yet?

May I ask why you and Crashsnake are having an edit war?
??? 98.221.196.38 18:07, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Because a few instances, he's adding in some things when these things either are not needed or imply things that haven't even been stated directly. I'm pretty sure Bluerock would have done the same if he got it. Trust me, he has done similar before. Weedle McHairybug 18:09, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Uh huh. Well, thank you for getting Twin Snakes. Snake's action movies (jumping on a missle and ceiling) moves are corny but the main menu's music is great and the torture part is WAY easier than the original version. --98.221.196.38 18:18, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I haven't actually played it yet. I will as soon as I get several schoolwork taken care of. For one thing, I've got a current event for history, my penultimate exam in Geology, at least two more labs and quizzes in Geology, one more assignment for Geology, some online quizzes for History, and final exams. The action moves were pretty much over the top, but then again, its not like the other games haven't had similar moves. I mean, Metal Gear Solid 2 had Snake dodging a Ballistic Knife Round as well as the knife itself, and going by what Olga said before the battle, she used this attack before, and of all the people she encountered before Snake, exactly zero managed to either evade or survive the attack. Heck, even the original Metal Gear Solid was somewhat guilty of this (Snake evading a tank round is notable). Weedle McHairybug 18:28, April 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll also mention that I have a friend who has a PS2, so I might borrow it as well as Metal Gear Solids 2 and 3 if he still has them for all the codec conversations on there (if he doesn't, I'll probably buy them to utilize them). Just don't expect me to do any codec conversations from Metal Gear Solid 4, since although my friend is willing to let me borrow his PS2, the PS3 is a different story altogether. Weedle McHairybug 13:41, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ma what?
http://metalgear.wikia.com/index.php?title=Revolver_Ocelot&diff=91113&oldid=91112


 * It was supposed to say "May also add in more soon", but it reached the text maximum for edit section before I could start. Anyways, have you gotten to the third Ocelot torture and survived through it (without giving up, I think)? I'm asking because that edit was in reference to that conversation. Weedle McHairybug 19:23, April 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * I did in the Twin Snakes and once in the easy version of the original Metal Gear Solid. Ocelot stops talking to Snake (in regards to the plot) after three torture sessions. I was only able to do two torture sessions on Normal difficulty in the original. The torture sessions in the original are almost impossible in Normal difficulty because Ocelot tortures Snake FOUR times during each session. It's EXTREMELY difficult to keep pressing the circle button. I managed to do it eventually but it was hard. Thankfully, the Twin Snakes torture sessions are a lot easier. Dr. Strangelove's torture in Peace Walker was hard too but at least she stopped at three. Anyway, canon wise, Snake probably only endured three torture sessions at the most before figuring out Otacon's ketchup trick.--98.221.196.38 19:32, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Either that, or Gray Fox letting him loose. Weedle McHairybug 19:42, April 16, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Really great job undoing all those edits and everything. Great to see you always taking the time to keep making contributions. Inspirational, truly. Thanks again. NeveRelwof 11:29, April 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, though I won't be able to much longer because I have to be at Physical Geology before 8:30 at GPC campus as well as stay over at campus until 2:30 both due to my Geology Lab final and the Japanese Festival. Weedle McHairybug 11:32, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Are you an admin?
If not you should become one, that way you would be able to block people like Lancer 1289. You definitely have what it takes210.56.81.20 11:36, April 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I will become one if it is necessary, but due to bad experiences with admins on forums, I'm reluctant to become one. Weedle McHairybug 11:37, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't let bad experiences stop you, be the exception! This wiki desperately needs someone like you as admin210.56.81.20 11:39, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Seriously
Ok I haven't been here in a while but. You still haven't complete it yet? Seriously after four months? Hmm. Oh well then.

Guess I'll file this under unsolved clases.

Thank you for trying thought. I guess this is one question that will never have an answer to.

What a waste.

Okay, what I can tell you right now is that there are at least 35 cutscenes in Peace Walker. 36 counting the opening, and if we split the cutscenes up, separately, about 50 cutscenes. Not counting the codec briefings afterwards. As for Portable Ops, there are 45 cutscenes, probably 50 counting the encounters with the optional characters (ie, the scenes right before the radio conversations). So far, that leaves about 146-166 cutscenes when combining MGS, the Tanker Chapter of MGS2, MPO, and MPW. I've yet to accomplish the Plant Chapter, both the Virtuous Mission and Operation Snake Eater, and MGS4. As soon as those are done, the questions should be completed. Weedle McHairybug 03:07, May 16, 2011 (UTC)

One last thing
On more thing. The second part of the UMGSQ. Is total how many cutscenes in all. Then Part 3. How long would it take to watch every cutscene. From MGS3 to MGS4.

One more thing. I checked that MGS site it's closed down but I was right the first time about Gray Fox. Born 1954 died 2005 age 51. bye.

I have been on a hiatus (university). RemoteJoyLite can take clean snapshots regardless of where you are and what you are doing on the PSP which I only found very recently. If you have any screenshot requests just message me. I have MPO, MPO+ and MGSPW. Taking a photo (not the in-game type) isn't really the way to go. Uncle269 06:17, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Ok...um Who are you and what does this have to do with how many cutscenes in MGS series?

Edit comments
Weedle, can you please ensure that your edits comments are within the character limit. It's impossible to see any of your full messages a lot of the time. If you have more to say, you should really use the talk pages. --Bluerock 12:07, May 30, 2011 (UTC)

Recent images
Hey Weedle, could you please help tidy the presentation on the pages you added loads of images to? We don't really need three seperate pictures of the Gurlukovich mercenaries boarding the Discovery within the Tanker Incident article. If need be, place them in a gallery, as I have done with the Shadow Moses page. Cheers. --Bluerock 17:50, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Howdy.
Hello there! How has everything been since I've been gone? Sorry about leaving, but the intense amount of negative energy I felt hanging around here became a little too much to handle and I needed time out. Cheers to you and some the others for keeping up the hard work. --Fantomas 23:39, June 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Welcome back, Fantomas. You know, we were actually considering making new admins in case you didn't return. I also have some suggestions: Namely, you need to unlock some pages that were locked by the time you left (such as the Beauty and the Beast Unit article). Thanks. Weedle McHairybug 23:54, June 2, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I've already unlocked that article for you! --Fantomas 00:08, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Fox Engine
Hey Weedle, I was going to add an article on the Fox Engine revealed yesterday but I thought I should check first. Do you think it is appropriate to add?--Soul reaper 15:54, June 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't see why it shouldn't. After all, we already have articles on Zone of the Enders and Snatcher, plus articles on the main characters from Rumble Roses. Weedle McHairybug 16:05, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Vincent and Hal Emmerich Connection
Relax this isn't about the Cutscenes. This is Metal Gear/Silent Hill type question.

Does anyone find it odd that Father Vincent looks and modeled after Hal Emmerich? One would assume since SH3

Came out one year after MGS2 in 2002. I think the developers modeled Vincent after Emmerich's MGS2 design. Am I the only one who notice this?


 * Can't say for certain, seeing how I've never really interacted with Silent Hill at all. I may not have played MGS2 at all, but I've at least seen videos of it, unlike Silent Hill. Weedle McHairybug 01:56, June 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wait you've never placed a Silent Hill game before? Or MGS2?
 * But you know who Father Vincent is?
 * Actually, I don't know who Father Vincent is. I'll look him up on Wikipedia, though. As for MGS2, I haven't played it, not yet anyways, although after this summer semester is over, I am going to borrow my friends PS2 unit to play MGS2 and MGS3. Weedle McHairybug 00:04, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I just looked him up. There wasn't a picture of him, but apparently he was this high priest in this religious cult known as the Order, and was more hedonistic/dogmatic than Claudia, the main villain of the game. He also built the church that the final fight took place in, and apparently was killed by her. Weedle McHairybug 00:08, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want to see a picture of him look on the Silent Hill Wiki site then tell me if he looks like Hal Emmerich.
 * Okay, I just looked him up. There wasn't a picture of him, but apparently he was this high priest in this religious cult known as the Order, and was more hedonistic/dogmatic than Claudia, the main villain of the game. He also built the church that the final fight took place in, and apparently was killed by her. Weedle McHairybug 00:08, June 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want to see a picture of him look on the Silent Hill Wiki site then tell me if he looks like Hal Emmerich.

Sleep gas
Sadly, I don't have a PSP and it doesn't look like we have a picture of it on IMFDB, so I couldn't tell you unless you know where there's an image of one. Evil Tim 15:04, June 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Although if you ever wanted to know what Liquid's boat on the Volta was, check the IMFDB article under Browning M2HB. Just did a bit of searching. :) Evil Tim 16:40, June 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hamsters
Konami's translation team during the 8 and 16 bit eras had something of a reputation for not taking their jobs even remotely seriously; Metal Gear's manual rather infamously featured a plot that had nothing to do with the game whatsoever, and I imagine the deadly poisonous hamsters are a product of the same approach of just writing any damn thing they felt like. Evil Tim 03:06, June 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wasn't the English translation technically released in the 128 era, though? I mean, it was released around the same time as subsistence, and I'm saying it's the English release since MG2 when it was first released was a Japan exclusive. Weedle McHairybug 03:15, June 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Huh. I've definately seen images of the MSX2 character designs with English subtitles and just assumed it must have been released at the time it came out. Must have just been a very goofy day over in Japan when they decided Zanzibar Land uses sulphuric acid to kill poisonous hamsters. Maybe that was the same guy who later wrote "and then The Fury turns into two huge flaming skulls for absolutely no reason because it makes sense for him to do that." :) Evil Tim 03:24, June 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * The original Japanese release used real life actors as the portrait models (eg, Big Boss was Sean Connery). Weedle McHairybug 03:26, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

It's a radio device.
Nastasha's book confirms that. Stop starting edit wars because you don't like what I post. Unless you are an administrator, you don't have the authority to tell me what to edit.65.211.97.242 14:57, June 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not denying that it is a radio device. Heck, in case you haven't noticed, I allowed you to keep the Nastasha Romanenko thing that stated that it was a radio device when undoing your edits, when I could have just as easily just removed it altogether either in the same edit or a future edit. My problem, however, lies with the Mei Ling thing, as regardless of whether it was a radio device or not, the way that they introduced Mei Ling (both in actions and especially in wording) nonetheless indicated that he was referring to Mei Ling herself (meaning, her appearance in addition to her voice and personality) as being cute. Now, if Solid Snake said, or at least Solid Snake's statement was translated as, "Nothing...I just didn't expect a world-class designer of military technology to sound so...cute.", "Nothing...I just didn't expect a world-class designer of military technology to act so...cute." or even "Nothing...I just didn't expect a world-class designer of military technology to act and sound so...cute." which would have been in reference to her voice, personality, and both, respectively, I wouldn't have that much of a problem about the whole Mei Ling issue, and thus wouldn't have to keep adding it in. Weedle McHairybug 15:15, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Engineers and Scientists pictures
Those images were screenshots from a youtube video walkthrough, hence the poor quality. I'd be glad to get the soviet officer picture if I can find an appropriate moment in one of the videos but it would speed things up little if you could tell me what points in the game they are present, there are a lot of videos and I can't exactly remember were the soviet officers appear--Soul reaper09:26, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * After a quick look I may have found an image, I'm not 100% sure if it's of what you wanted. It's pretty blurry but that's just what happens when you use youtube as a source. If I had the time I'd take them straight from the game. If it's not the right image then I can keep looking--Soul reaper 09:46, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. And anyways, the image is pretty much good since it at least covers a Soviet officer who isn't Raikov, so I'd say you got it right. I'm temporarily using my laptop because my regular computer's monitor is malfunctioning for some reason. Weedle McHairybug 13:10, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

MGS PW Screenshots.
Can I add in screenshots I took of the Pupa custom doing a backflip, and a inactive pupa in the mine base? Redtail 05:33, July 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't see why not. Go ahead. Weedle McHairybug 13:57, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to be a pain in the ass
Im sorry if i caused you any inconvenience but I m new to this page and I'm a little confused about operating it.Anyway, my point was that Ocelot said "at the location we discussed" reffering to the location where the tanker was supposed to be sinked.That's what i think anyway, but i am pretty sure because i watched the video again just to make sure.But, ok, it's your call.Just see the video once more and then decide. mitsotakis

So you managed to play Ghost Babel?
Cool! It's definitely a great game. Too bad Snake doesn't live happily ever after with Christine Jenner in the canon storyline. SyphonFilter1987 19:09, August 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wish I could say I played it. However, to be honest, I haven't. But I did try to research youtube gameplay videos and various scripts so I could compensate for this. I'll probably get my own copy, assuming there are still working copies available. Weedle McHairybug 19:12, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Pilots need pressurized suits?
News to me. Why do they need that? By the way, where did you get the picture of Big Boss fighting Solid Snake? 68.37.56.163 18:08, August 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I got it from Imageshack, more specifically http://imageshack.us/f/8/immaginedlu.png. Before that, someone on the MGSForums posted it. As for the pressurized suits, there's a reason why the pilots when flying at high speeds often have those masks on their helmets like in the movie Independence Day. Besides which, it was also commented on Kojima's commentary for Metal Gear Solid 3. If you'd like, I'm perfectly willing to pull it up to prove it. Weedle McHairybug 18:13, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

MPO images
Hey Weedle, thanks for uploading all the recent item and weapon screenshots and I hope you don't mind me updating some of them from time to time with new ones. On a related note, I was thinking we should maybe remove the images with the descriptions included, as they don't look too good in the articles. Since the descriptions are included on the pages anyway, they seem a bit redundant as well. If you're up for it, we can just remove them as and when we carry out other editing on those pages as it's not in any way urgent; I think it would just help improve presentation. --Bluerock 18:31, August 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * I guess it's fine with me, although we probably should wait a week before deleting them so I cann manage to get the titles down. Anyways, I don't really mind you replacing the images. Actually, personally, I'm disappointed that I couldn't get more clear images. I had to use my digital camera to take most of those pics because theres no camera in Portable Ops that would allow me to do so and transfer to my computer, and I don't even know how to take the kind of screenshot images that are on here. Weedle McHairybug 19:16, August 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've gotten the file names down, and there aren't any with talk pages, so I think you're free to go with deleting them. Weedle McHairybug 20:17, August 27, 2011 (UTC)

I didn't delete it.
The other guy did. The problem with your novel is it contradict the game's events. Gray Fox was crushed to death. Naomi Hunter didn't know Big Boss was Snake's father. Psycho Mantis didn't create a fun house (though that would have been great in the game) and Snake doesn't find out that Meryl is the daughter of Roy Campbell in the game. I agree with you on a lot of other stuff. Portable Ops is definitely canon. MGS4 shows pictures of the game but not Acid so saying that was advertising is stupid. Coldman is also clearly the "deviously cunning strategist". He's the one who planned the mission in Grozny Grad and the Boss' death. However, I don't think the MGS novel is canon. EVA doesn't say anyting about eight batches of babies. I also don't think Snake spared the lives of the B&B members. He even doesn't show sympathy when Drebin and Rosemary talked about their suffering. As for the codec, I'd believe it was a video device if we saw Snake wear a watch. Those are the three things I disagree with you. 68.37.56.163 17:44, September 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Can you please explain where Raymond Benson got the idea that Dr. Clark was female then? I don't recall Para-Medic being mentioned in pre-release things for Metal Gear Solid 4, never mind it being revealed that she was a Patriot founder or her being Dr. Clark, so if you want to cite somewhere where Raymond Benson got the idea, please, be my guest. As for Snake finding out about Meryl's true relation to her father, his reaction to Meryl mentioning that Roy was her father indicated that he did know about it either during the conclusion of the mission or sometime between 2005 and 2014.


 * Anyways, about the video/watch thing, that might change if the rumors about KP developing another remake of Metal Gear Solid are true, maybe the funhouse aspect as well. Weedle McHairybug 19:51, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Those calls do exist!
Snake has to go back to those areas after EVA contacts Snake. EVA translates the names (i.e Rassvet means Dawn and Graniny Gorki means Granin's mountain) but then asks Snake why he went back to those areas. XD

I'm currently playing La Noire on Playstation 3. When I finish that game, I'll hook up my PS2 to play Snake Eater. I also plan on adding a conversation about EVA lashing out at Snake because he was too slow to figure out that Raikov is gay. XD 68.37.56.163 11:47, September 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, that pretty much confirms it. So I guess the only locations that EVA doesn't describe when in the area are Lazorevo, Zaozyorje, and Rokovoj Bereg (although does describe them when stating their planned escape route). Personally, I don't care about the location translations, I just want to see if she gives any details about their history, similar to the other locations. Well, good luck, both to playing La Noire and uploading the conversations, although I thought the conversation about EVA telling Snake he was too slow in regards to Raikov's sexuality was already posted? Weedle McHairybug 11:53, September 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * There are two conversations about Raikov. In the second one, Snake asks EVA whether Raikov dumped him, causing EVA to say "If this conversation goes on any longer, I'm going to slam my fist in this radio into your head. Figure him out YOURSELF. Later." Then Snake says "...". --68.37.56.163 18:08, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

I've moved on to the Battlefield series. You need to be more specific with perhaps what you would like taken as screenshots. I will be able to load up MGS: Portable Ops.

Uncle269 23:43, September 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, the specific locations are the Prison, the Supply Depot, the Soviet Patrol Base (By that, I mean actual location photos, the picture of Key A doesn't count), the Hospital, the Research Lab, the Harbor, the Security Base, the Airport, and the Guest House. Weedle McHairybug 00:04, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Why leaving two identical pictures?
Hi there :D

Why are you always leaving/ reverting my modifications in order to keep identical pictures, while I always remove them?

The iPod, the Octocamo... What is the point of having two pictures which show exactly the same thing?

Thank for your answer.

YoannYoann718 16:26, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

You know, Yoann, you could just try to update one of the current images by uploading a new version of said image. If you really think that we shouldn't make duplicates, I don't see why you don't just update any of the current images by uploading new images in the same image article? BTW, are you French? I'm asking because some of the screenshots indicate that you have the French version of MGS4. Weedle McHairybug 16:38, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so I can upload a new version from a file initially uploaded by someone else? I wasn't sure that I could do that ^_^

Yes, I'm french.Yoann718 16:42, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

You feel better to add the same picture in a worse quality for each article I add High Quality pictures? Can you tell me what IS the POINT of doing that? Can you give me a little clue about this non-sens edits? I really need to understand what is your goalYoann718 08:38, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Fine, I'll ask Dr. Ed Argon to delete those pics if it will make you feel better, since he was the one who uploaded those pics. Weedle McHairybug 08:40, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hahaha, what a shame... You're just doing that for ANY article I update, and you still don't want to answer to the "why" question. And remove the E Den draw which looks really, really bad. So, for the third time, WHY are you doing that? Where is the sens in all this Yoann718 08:47, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay, the reason why I keep inserting those pics, I don't know if its justifiable, but it should at least be understandable, is because I have a bit of a compulsion to put them up since otherwise there's no point to even uploading them onto the site. As for the E-DEN pic, don't blame me, blame Shinkawa or whoever was the one who designed the various camos for it looking bad, all I'm doing is uploading information. It was posted on Muni_Shinobu's MGS3 Camo page as a picture, and had I known that people were going to react badly to it, I might have uploaded it, posted it on one of the editors (preferrably a high-ranking one) to see if it qualifies and depending on the answer, either insert it or delete it. Weedle McHairybug 08:55, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's really a bad reason, since they were TEMPORARY here before that someone will upload a better pic from it. We are in a website which peope will see. Do you really think that Metal Gear wikia deserve to get (very) low quality pictures? Is that what you want?
 * About the low quality pics, the main admin can remove them easily, it's not hard to figure this out. What a shame to see so much troubles here since I'm uploading High Quality pictures...
 * I'm not here to get worked up by you, nor ANYONE else. That's enough, I'm leaving this wikia. Yoann718 09:19, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * I realize now that it was a bad reason. That's why I'm not going to interfere any longer. In fact, I'll even post a note on my computer stating not to interfere, so please don't leave. And for the record, had I been against you uploading high-quality pics, I would have removed them. I have absolutely no problem with you uploading high quality pics. I'm sorry. If you're going to leave, can you at least stick around until Bluerock resolves the E-DEN debate? Weedle McHairybug 09:25, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Picture from a camera from a video from a camera
Hi Are you really taking pics from a youtube video with a camera ^_^? The "Print Screen" key/feature exist in any computer and will look a lot more better than those pics ^_^ You can use a software if you want (PrtScr is a very good one :) A good pic with a low resolution is better than a high res pic which doesn't looks good. BTW, you can still request Pics in my page... Because there is no point for me to replace each picture you'll put ^_^ --Yoann718 18:32, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Had to fix the message because it was glitched (it displayed source code on the actual page, rendering it uneditable.). And to answer your question, yes, I did use a digital camera to take those pics from youtube. I don't have Metal Gear Solid 2 or a PS2, and even if I did own them, the PS2 hardware certainly wouldn't allow pctures to be posted online. I did similar things with Portable Ops (for obvious reasons) and with Peace Walker to a certain extent (Such as taking photographs of Mother Base and some model viewer items.). Weedle McHairybug 02:49, October 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Then, it should be better to take pictures with a software (like PrtScr). You can also use PCSX2 (A playstation 2 emulator). Because the quality of the current pictures, and it's normal since the camera that you have is not designed to take pictures from a screen is really bad. If you can't or if you don't want for some reasons, it should be better to request Hi Quality pictures on my page from things that you want and I'll do my best to upload them. Because at the moment, it doesn't looks professional nor something to display on a high quality Wiki(a). I'll take the lead for Pictures as you can see, so it should be better to improve text, description or other such things. Yoann718 07:28, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

RE: MGS4 website downloads.
Hi Weedle. I've never used the website so I can't really offer any assistance. Sorry I couldn't help--Soul reaper 01:58, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

I checked out the website, the Sunny Camera can't actually be downloaded as such, it can only be embedded, which, as far as I know, isn't possible to do on wikia. I might look into it a bit more to see if something can be done.--Soul reaper 07:27, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Re:I kinda need some help with images.
I'll get on it right away. As I don't really know what each image is, I'll upload them but leave it to you to ad them to the page. By the way, two of the eight images you linked me to are the same. Are there seven or eight images that you need?--Soul reaper 02:17, October 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've uploaded all 8 images.--Soul reaper 02:29, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I'm glad to help. On the subject of the state soldiers, did you take the pictures from you psp screen or were they in a video on the internet. If they're on the net, you can give me a link and I can take screenshots of them but if they're on your psp then, obviously, I wont be able to help. Keep up the good work.--Soul reaper 02:49, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Re:M81 Woodland
After spending quite some time searching, I haven't even been able to find any mention of the M81 camo, except for on this site and a forum where you were asking if anyone could help you find an image. To be honest I'm beginning to doubt its existence. Where did you hear of it?

I found a site that had a link to an image of the wondergoo camo but the link was, to my disappointment, expired. Apparently it could be seen in the news section of the Konami website quite some time ago but after hours of searching the all the sites I could think of, I found nothing. At least we know for sure that this one is real.--Soul reaper 03:29, October 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know it was first mentioned by Muni Shinobu on her site, but she removed it by the time I returned there recently. Weedle McHairybug 09:13, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Gas mask
Hey Weedle, you mentioned that the Genome Combat Veterans wore gas masks? Was this from the novel? Your edit comment suggested that you were speaking about something from the game. --Bluerock 21:04, October 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * It was from the game. You encountered soldiers that were essentially reused models of the NBC units, only colored black. They could be found on the Communications Tower Walkway before accessing Tower B, and during the fight on the freight elevator in the Underground Maintenance Base. They were never named in-game, not even in optional codec calls (and believe me, I checked, at least with the Freight Elevator battle), so Genome Combat Veterans, given the fact that they were labelled as such during the fight with them in the Official Missions Handbook, was literally the only identifier they had, or at least the closest one to an identifier that could be found. Weedle McHairybug 22:22, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the images. They do indeed look like black NBC troops in Twin Snakes. Yet in the original, the similarity is not as apparent, and it is difficult to identify any gas mask, if indeed there is one. I assumed they were heavy troops in slightly different gear, due to the coloration. Also, the troops who arrest Snake, after his battle with Sniper Wolf at Communications Tower A, are actually light infantry in the original. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it only the Stealth Camo soldiers that the strategy guide claimed were "Genome Combat Veterans"? --Bluerock 09:17, October 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * They also referred to the genome soldiers that ambushed Snake on the freight elevator in the Undeground Maintenance Base as "veteran Genome guards" in the Mission objectives section. I kinda wish there was something identifying them in-game. And they were also light infantry in the Twin Snakes remake when they arrest Snake after his battle with Sniper Wolf. Weedle McHairybug 10:58, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Raiden artwork
Hi Weedle, Where did that image of Raiden you just uploaded come from. I searched everywhere I could think of but found no source.--Soul reaper 11:09, October 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * The place where I directly found it was on MGSforums. As for where it originally came from, it was uploaded by Hideo Kojima via his twitter account. Weedle McHairybug 12:36, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * I looked on both Kojima's accounts and couldn't find the image in a single post. I think it's real but we may have to remove it from the pages until we know for sure.--Soul reaper 14:31, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * From what little intel I got on MGSForums, it was apparently posted on Kojima's twitter account a few days ago. I'll try to get more information out later, such as an actual link to the twitter post in question. Weedle McHairybug 14:36, October 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the link. It's nice to see an image from Rising after all this time. For some reason I didn't need a twitter account to see it, guess I beat the system.--Soul reaper 06:54, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Comeplete yet?
What is taking so long to finish the cutscene count? It's been nearly a year and a half.

I do have one question. Do the Gekkos have the ability to turn off The System? When Ocelot coducts his

two test. We hear them before The System is turned off. Can they do that?

ArmsTech speculation
I was referring to your own speculation that ArmsTech arranged the CNO's death, rather than Nastasha's general comment on the affair. --Bluerock 17:21, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORcfhsUa4z8

As you can see, the walls and floor are soaked with blood. There's no chance that came from a rail gun. One Navy Seal didn't even bleed on the bridge when he was shot. The only thing that killed him was the fall into the ocean after looking at Fortune. Plus Vamp even says "five today" after sucking the blood of the last surviving Navy Seal. Hence, he killed the three Navy Seals from the bloody hallway and the Navy Captain and sucked their blood. 98.221.192.218 21:19, December 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * There are actually a total of seven dead SEAL members in Strut B (two in the exterior corridor, five in the interior room), as well as the Navy captain, despite Vamp saying "five today." Additionally, a person actually taking a direct hit from a rail gun is likely to result in massive injury; the SEALs on the bridge appear to react more to the explosive force than anything. Although there is no solid evidence that Fortune killed any of Alphas in Strut B, I thought I would point out some holes in your theory, and I'm sure that Weedle has seen all the MGS cutscenes anyway. --Bluerock 10:39, December 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, I did see all the cutscenes as a favor for Gekkou. I did attempt to report the amount of cutscenes in there, but he ended up posting something before I could, thus ruining it, and since this was around the same time the wikia's layout was changed, I also couldn't copy them to repost it. Weedle McHairybug 11:08, December 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wrong, three are in the exterior corridor. Two are lying on the floor. The third is lying on the door. I know that that Vamp killed the four Navy Seals and the captain in the room. One of them managed to shoot hundreds of rounds without reloading. When Vamp said "five today", I assumed he meant the people whose blood he sucked, not the amount of people he killed. Vamp didn't have time to suck the blood of three of the Navy Seals in the room. Also, Snake Tales didn't change the hallway in "Dead's Man Whisper". I assumed that was more confirmation that Vamp killed them in the Plant Chapter. Anyway, fine. You were right. I was wrong. Fortune killed the Navy Seals in the hallway. I apologize. I'm certain Vamp killed the Navy Captain though. His throat and wrists were slit. --98.221.192.218 14:53, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Overrated
I think the title speaks for itself. I'm about to ask the one question that will mostly bring down hate upon me.

Does anyone but me thinks that the Metal Gear Franchise is highly overrated?

When you really think about it Metal Gear is a good series. But I think they worship a little too much?

The games aren't perfect you konw. It suffers from plot holes glitches and somewhat boring storylines.

And on top of that they god worship Kojima as if he's a Jesus like messiah. Which his is not.

No game is 100 percent perfect. Not even Metal Gear. Japanese video games suffer from the same thing

anime suffer from. Limited movement subpar stories and cardboard cut characters and over emotional.

That's why no one ever says nothing bad about Metal Gears or the technical flaws about it out of fear of the

BIG BAD Hardcore Fanboys and Fanbase who would sent hate mail and death threats. The point is do you

think the Metal Gear Franchise is highly overrated? Kojima is just a man not a God.


 * Why did you put this on Weedle's page? It would be better suited to a forum. Sign your posts in the future.--210.56.91.136 04:02, December 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Because his page is safe from all the anger and hatred I would get.


 * Do you realize what I just asked? I asked is the Metal Gear franchise is overrated?
 * That said. Do you know what would have happened if I posted this on the forum.
 * They would come down upon with the wrath of God for for asking unwritten question never to
 * be ask out of fear of death threats and hate mail. You see what I'm saying?




 * But anyone can respond here, same as if you wrote it on a forum. I don't think you'll get much of a response either way. You wrote that Metal Gear was overrated on a Metal Gear fan site, people here are most likely going to disagree and even more likely to not care at all. It's your opinion. Please sign your posts--210.56.91.136 07:21, December 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I think the series can be over rated in some respects, but it's just opinion either way. I would recommend posting on the forums to see what others think; I doubt that you have anything to fear, as nobody here thinks Kojima is a god. --Bluerock 10:48, December 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's pretty much true, they're all opinions so it honestly shouldn't matter. Actually, the MGSForums seem to have a lot of users who seem to hate Kojima's guts for ruining the series (case in point, Nathan Snake), so you might fit in there, if anywhere else. Weedle McHairybug 11:01, December 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nathan Snake? But thank you for your opinions. I didn't think a lot of people hated Kojima.
 * All I've been hearing on Youtube and others is, OH Metal Gear is the greatest game no game out there is better then Metal Gear. Kojima is the second coming of Jesus. God damn people
 * get a grip. This is what I mean when people god worship this game a little too much.


 * And stated before uh who's Nathan Snake? But it's nice to see some intelligent people
 * left who are unbias about this franchise.
 * I wouldn't say he's unbiased, just that he's more against Kojima than possible. Anyways, he's a poster on MGSForums. Weedle McHairybug 17:56, December 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think we're forgetting the fact that saying you don't like the game is one thing.
 * Calling a franchise overrated well that's like putting a bulleye on your back.
 * Why do you think nobody on Youtube ever post any video saying Metal Gear is overrated why?
 * Because they god worship this series and are too stubborn and stupid to see that all games have some
 * flaws. Calling over Metal Gear is considered taboo to gamers. Why do you think nobody says nothing
 * truly bad about Michael Jackson they worship and loved him too much to speak hatefully ill will of him.


 * The point I'm making here is do you really think for one minute that if I posted this same topic on the forum you think I get a rational thinking users who will disagree yeah maybe. But the rest of them will be too busy condemning me in a backlash of hate and rage threating to find out where I live and murder me.
 * And for what? A video game? They want to kill over a video game?! BECAUSE THE STUPID FUCKING
 * MORONS ARE TOO BLIND THE FACT HEARING METAL GEAR IS SO GREAT OVER AND OVER
 * IT'S A ENOUGH TO MAKE A PERSON SNAP UNDER THE IDOICY DROLLING ASSHOLES. IT MAKE ME
 * WANT TO KILL THEM KILL THEM HUNT THEM DOWN IN BLOOD! (Record scratches)


 * I'm sorry. I didn't mean all that. I think it's starting to get to me. I just so tired of hearing Metal Gear this
 * Kojima that. It's getting on my nerves. Well I have nothing else to say. I'm sorry to waste all this space.
 * I just needed to vent out my frustration. Again I'm sorry. Bye.

I'm not going to Forum post Overrated.
As you can tell by the title I'm not going to post my overrated on the forum. I afraid I fear for my life more than the whims of what I really think. You tent to forget Metal Gear is like a religion to these hardcore fanboys. They've not going to stand around and let someone bad mouth it no matter how bad it is.

Here a quick example. Let's say you Weedle McHairybug. I find your user name funny. Anyway. Let's say for the

sake of argument. Decided to post on the MGS Forum or Youtube stating why is highly overrated. He explains

his reason why he thinks that. the plots plot holes the story etc. Now do you really think for one minute that

your going a rational thinking responds from level headed users? Yeah one or two maybe. But the rest of them

will be too busy shouting hate and insanity at you. Threating to murder you if they meet you in person.

And you Weedle McHairybug. I find your name funny to say. You made it worse by posting your real name and

where you live. The point is I'm not going to do it. Do I think Metal Gear is overrated? Hell yeah. So is Final Fantasy 7. Bye.

Finish yet
I hate to be pushy but have you finish the cutscene question yet? I like to know before the end of the world in 2012.

Or so they say.

I find the ration quote ironic.
In the U.S. version, all of the curry rations are stated to be MSF made. Technically, Big Boss's quote doesn't make sense because they already started making MSF rations. Also, I didn't know MSF soldiers mentioned tea and scones. I wonder how many other random soldier quotes I haven't seen. --98.221.192.253 20:06, December 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I actually had to do a roughly two-day project with Peace Walker regarding the post-mission codec calls, mostly in regards to those codec calls that are either unavailable anywhere else (eg, pretty much any of Kazuhira Miller's reports on additions to Mother Base's menu/MSF's divisions, or the messages that appear after assigning Huey and/or Strangelove to the R&D Team) or are otherwise never printed on the script on Gamefaqs yet are fully replayable (eg, Amanda's recruitment call and Huey's recruitment call). I finished it today at 9:40 EST with the final Zadornov escape message (I was done with finals by the time I started). As for the soldier quotes, perhaps I should create an article or at least a new section on the Character Traits article for the Peace Walker quotes? I've found quite a few myself. Weedle McHairybug 20:22, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Screenshot from MSF fleet
You asked from Bluerock about screenshots from MSF fleet when they headed for missile base. I go ahead and took few pictures, they might be bad quality since my camera isn't the best of kind, but I guess it's better than nothing... But those three are the best quality out of them, let me know if I need to get another set of photos or something like that. Dr.Ed Argon 22:49, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It works in absence of a more quality screenshots. Weedle McHairybug 23:52, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Nice to see someone else also took cotice of the bandana and took initiative too.

Can I ask you three questions?
If Fatman was not shot in the heart, what caused his death? He only spoke to Raiden for like two minutes. That's pretty quick to die from a bullet to the chest. Fortune lasted a lot longer. President Johnson was definitely shot in the heart. As for the other thing, didn' t Fatman mean that Raiden should finish him off? He told him to bring it on. The whole point of his test was to prevent the Big Shell from being destroyed. Why would the Patriots be happy if the place was destroyed? I'm confused. Please explain both things to me. 68.45.60.20 18:56, January 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Finally, something that can allow me to edit other than via the "undo" button.


 * Anyways, to answer your question, I initially thought being shot in the heart would have been instantaneous, and Fatman's being shot seemed a bit longer than usual. I guess I guessed wrong. As for the Patriots and the issue with the S3 plan, had the point of the test been to avoid destroying the Big Shell, then Raiden failed as soon as Arsenal Gear was activated (since that did cause the destruction of the Big Shell). Not to mention, the Patriots considered the S3 plan a "resounding success" in spite of Solid Snake's presence, something that Ocelot and GW's Colonel implied was detrimental to the S3 plan's success, so I wouldn't be surprised if they were content with the destruction of the Big Shell. Besides, the Patriots often had a tendency of keeping their operatives in the dark about their true plans for the S3 plan (They led Ames to believe that Raiden would assassinate President Johnson, they manipulated Johnson's betrayal in the first place, they kept Emma in the dark about the terrorist occupation of Big Shell in actuality being part of the testing process for GW, and apparently they even tricked Ocelot into thinking that the S3 plan was trying to create the next Solid Snake rather than a means to control humanity and craft personalities, memories, and perceptions of events), so its not like that would have to be the honest goal for them, just a means of convincing Fatman into participating, similar to how they lied about Raiden being the assassin to execute Johnson or even that Ames' coverstory was airtight. Weedle McHairybug 19:07, January 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * I actually meant "test" in regards to the C4. Ocelot said Fatman tested Raiden's progress. And Olga said Raiden passed with flying colors. --68.45.60.20 19:16, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Alaska
Fair enough, but please integrate the info already there into the new sections and delete any repetition. Thanks. --Bluerock 19:44, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

MPO images
No offence Weedle, but most of the images you have uploaded recently are really poor quality. If you're taking them from YouTube videos, I would strongly suggest using the ctrl+PrntScr function on your keyboard, pasting them in an image program, then cropping them down if need be. They will look a lot better than taking them with a camera from your monitor. --Bluerock 23:41, February 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, you can delete them if you wish. Weedle McHairybug 23:51, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Actually, the deletion will have to wait. I'm trying to do ctrl+PrntScr on the full screen, but I'm unable to do so without it going back to the regular version of the Youtube video page. If you have any ideas on how to do it on full screen, feel free to explain it. Weedle McHairybug 23:55, February 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's tricky, but it can be done if you're quick. It's probably easier just to screen capture the normal sized window and then crop it down. --Bluerock 23:58, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I just tried the ctrl+PrntScr code (at least, I think "Print Screen" is the same as "PrntScr"), and it doesn't seem to be doing a thing. I'm using Windows 7, BTW, so assuming that the coding is different, I'm probably going to need something that applies to Windows 7. Weedle McHairybug 00:04, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's a universal keyboard shortcut, like Ctrl+V and Ctrl+C; doesn't matter what operating system you have (I have Win7 too). Just practise it anywhere, then paste into a program like Paint, and it'll copy an image of whatever was on screen. --Bluerock 02:18, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's another thing. How do I paste it on Paint? There's no paste option on Paint, not to mention if I click on the mural, it leaves a mark, and doesn't even have a way to correct it. Weedle McHairybug 19:47, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Try the edit menu at the top, or Ctrl+V; you can't do it via right mouse click. --Bluerock 21:00, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I managed to do it. I'm also trying to crop the image in question and remove anything that's not the video itself, but I'm not sure how to do it. I took a computer class, but I'm not sure how to do it under Microsoft Paint. Weedle McHairybug 21:06, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Edit > Select all > Drag the image up and to the left to crop those sides of the image. Deselect the image (click outside the selected area), then use the small boxes located on the very edges (in the centre of both the bottom and right sides of the whole area) to complete the cropping. There are other types of software that do this more easily, but it should work ok. --Bluerock 01:44, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't have an edit menu on Paint. What's the other kind of software for me to do this? Weedle McHairybug 01:56, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * If you've got the Win7 version, all the buttons should be at the top, under the Home or View tab, you can't miss them. Select all can also be done with Ctrl+A. Otherwise, you could try downloading PhotoScape or something for free. --Bluerock 11:47, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Avatar
Hey Weedle, you should really choose an avatar for your user profile. You've been editing here for over 2 years now. It doesn't have to be an image of yourself, you could just choose one that's already on the Wiki like me :) --Bluerock 11:25, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice work with the MGO equipment page by the way. --Bluerock 19:26, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm currently undecided on what my avatar should be. That's why I haven't done it yet. And you're welcome. I just wanted to make sure it was completed before MGO is shut down. At the very least, I managed to get everything up to date (although trying to upload the varying equipment is probably going to require far more work, not just the backs, but also the varying colors.). The user who created the Graduation Speech page is going to take care of the Graduation Speech page, as finding speeches that aren't already on the article are hard to come by. Weedle McHairybug 21:06, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

What's an FX9 novelization?
I've never heard of that. 68.45.180.34 18:49, March 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's also known as the Worlds of Power novelizations, which are serial novelizations that are produced by Scholastic. They are Third-Party renderings of various NES Games. The Metal Gear one in particular was written in 1988 by Alexander Frost. It made some more changes to the games than even the localized manuals, such as renaming FOXHOUND as "Snake Men." It also gave Solid Snake the name of Justin Halley. Weedle McHairybug 18:55, March 5, 2012 (UTC)

So you did get the guide?
I'm touched. I told you the guide said EVA never knew that Ocelot was pretending to be Liquid. 68.45.180.34 21:22, March 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I know, I know. Also, for the record, I actually had it for a while. Weedle McHairybug 21:29, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

You played Snake Eater 3D?
If so, great. That drill also happened in the original version. I was confused when I first saw it happening. I haven't played Snake Eater 3D though. I don't have a Nintendo 3DS. I'm surprised they brought back Heather Halley just to say the name Yoshi. --68.45.180.34 13:29, March 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep. I pretty much got it on the same day it came out. The fact that the campus held a student study day and thus did not have classes also helped immensely. Granted, I wish they actually listed EVA's voice actor by her real name than by her alias, seeing how most people would probably already know that its an alias by now, especially after Hayter pretty much admitted it, but oh well. Also, I'm actually surprised that calling Sigint when wearing the Fruit camouflage doesn't trigger a Codec conversation, when calling him when wearing the GAKO camo in the original game did. Weedle McHairybug 14:09, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Early HF Blade screenshot.
I see what you mean, but the Metal Gear Solid HD Collection has been released (I own it), and Raiden never received the HF blade early, making the information inaccurate, which is why I removed that note. Notes like them probably belong in a trivia section, too. The screenshot is probably from a second playthrough.--Technobliterator 17:47, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Radio images Snake Eater
Hey Weedle, I will see what I can do if I get the time. However, I wonder how useful these images will actually be, since they were deliberately made grainy and low quality to simulate old slide projectors in the game. --Bluerock 18:44, March 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, for starters, some of the images, such as that device that appears in both the Motion Detector and the Active Sonar conversations, would be a good way to show the full device. In the case of the food, it would be a good idea to add them in so the player can actually see the food/medical herbs in-game. The NPC enemies would also probably work in regards to additional info. Also, for pictures such as the additional images of EVA, Zero, Sigint, and Para-Medic in the game, they'd demonstrate some character traits and probably some of their past (eg, Zero with The Boss in the fifth page of the radio, or Para-Medic helping a wheelchair bound patient in her fifth page, also that image of EVA working in some sort of suit to imply her role as an NSA officer prior to her "defection."). Plus, that image of The Boss and The Sorrow, which is also seen during her montage on her past prior to fighting her, could be incorporated in the section of her article that dealt with her life between her failed Mercury Mission and the Virtuous Mission. Anyways, just food for thought, if it can't be added in, fine. Weedle McHairybug 21:34, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

RE:MGO
I'm afraid that's a no to the first, thus I'm unable to get the pictures. I had difficulty trying to set Metal Gear Online up, as when I triedto us it, I needed to download several updates, which as you may know take forever to download, and when I was over half way through the update failed to download and I gave up there. Sorry :/--Technobliterator 21:26, March 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Eh, oh well. I'll try continuing to search for them. I tried Bing and Google for those items, and the only images that could be found (on a topic of those items in MGO) can't even be displayed anymore thanks to the image hosting site apparently taking them down. Weedle McHairybug 21:36, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Rising edits
Can you please give some sources for all this new info, so that it is clear that it is not just speculation? e.g. How do you know for certain that the Army of the Devil, or even Solidus Snake, is involved (besides John Cygan's voice)? Thanks. --Bluerock 21:59, May 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, a post for the Metal Gear Solid facebook page confirmed that the flashbacks were meant to show Solidus' training of Raiden as a Child Soldier during the Liberian Civil War. Here's the link:


 * https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150695008770986&set=a.381327975985.168167.285152375985&type=3&permPage=1


 * Weedle McHairybug 22:14, May 7, 2012 (UTC)


 * Can we be sure that the minor characters in the trailer are actually canon? It's live action after all. Resident Evil 5 did the same thing with their trailers. By the way, thanks for the confirmation about Solidus being in the game. --68.45.180.34 01:44, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Given the fact that the Metal Gear Solid Facebook page pretty much stated that they explained Raiden's past in detail, not to mention the fact that the point of the trailers was to reveal the reasons for some of his enhancements, I'd say they are intended to be as canon as possible. And you're welcome. Weedle McHairybug 01:57, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Weedle, Solidus (b. 1972) was a teenager/early 20's during the First Civil War (1989-1996) -- he wouldn't look so old as that picture depicts. I can understand where you're coming from, it certainly evokes the visage of Solidus, but there again is another interesting thing -- the dark side of the face is on the right eye, not the left. That points to Big Boss. Not Solidus, who would not lose his left eye until 2009 anyways. Big Boss would match the age and appearance of that man. ~Orca*
 * That dark side is not an eyepatch, if that's what you're implying. That's simply shadowing. The next trailer pretty much confirms that he does retain both eyes, meaning it is indeed Solidus. Besides, its not like Solidus couldn't have appeared middle aged as a teenager. If he could appear to be a Senior citizen by his late thirties, he most certainly could appear at least middle aged by his teens. Weedle McHairybug 10:09, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Edit: The point of who it is is also a moot point, anyways, as the Metal Gear Solid Facebook page already confirmed that the guy in those flashbacks was supposed to be Solidus, anyways. Weedle McHairybug 11:49, May 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Just a friendly reminder about including sources for new and developing info concerned with Rising. I know you do this sometimes in the edit comments, but many people will not see these. Also, if you get information from other fan sites (e.g. Snake Soup), they will usually give links to where they themselves got the info, so you can check for yourself if you are concerned about accuracy. --Bluerock 17:06, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * About Snake Soup, that's going to be a problem, because the specific source cited was a post by Ravi where he stated that he found the poster at his school. He didn't even specify which school he goes to in his post, and he claimed to have an eyewitness account on it and that he took pictures of it. I'll certainly post the new sources for the other stuff, though. Weedle McHairybug 17:31, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

New trailer.
I wonder what happened to Rosemary and John? The ending of MGS4 stated that Raiden was "done running" and that Rosemary was "done being afraid". I guess maybe they got killed. The trailer did say "family murdered". Also, thanks for the name of the cyborg. I knew he wasn't Vamp. 68.45.180.34 19:20, June 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * The "family murdered" thing was most likely a reference to Solidus orphaning him and then taking him to raise as if he were his own son. The same scene also mentioned a civil war, and the scene also had Raiden as a small kid (like four or five), meaning it was likely a reference to the Liberian Civil War. The rest of the trailer also had similar messages and scenes in the beginning. That being said, it's clear that something had to have happened to have Raiden join a PMC. Then again, going by his behavior in the trailer, maybe he really is "done running" in that he fully embraces being a soldier. Also, the thanks should actually go to the users at GameFAQs and MGSForums, since they mentioned that Sam's name was uttered in the pre-E3 show. Weedle McHairybug 19:33, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

What's "Magpul dynamic gun combat style"?
Never heard of it.


 * Another unregistered user briefly mentioned the style on the Solid Snake talk page, regarding the combat style that Snake was using during Metal Gear Solid 4. Weedle McHairybug 17:08, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Where did you get the information about Raiden becoming a mercenary to support Rosemary and John?
I'm glad they are finally mentioned. I assumed they were killed.

76.116.65.4 17:36, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

It was in an interview with Yuji Koreikado. I'll post the link to it when I can find it again. Weedle McHairybug 17:46, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Please do. 76.116.65.4 17:47, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I managed to find it:

http://www.g4tv.com/videos/58828/official-e3-preview-of-metal-gear-rising-revengeance/

It's also the same interview that explained what the Desperado PMC was all about, as well as its ties to Raiden becoming a Cyborg Ninja again.

Weedle McHairybug 18:03, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Project Itoh novel
Thanks for providing the source. Without it, there was no indication of where the information originated from (you should do this on other pages where it is not clear).

So, the shot was intended to put Vamp to sleep? Strange, it didn't seem to have this effect on the soldiers who took it in the game (unless it was off camera). Anyway, nice to see they released the book in English. Can you quote the novel's reference to Tselinoyarsk actually being Zanzibarland now? Thanks.

--Bluerock 18:28, June 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's taken a while, but I think I found it. Specifically, it's in Otacon's account on Naomi Hunter in the beginning of the Old Sun section.


 * "When secession movements erupted in the Soviet republics of Central Asia, one territory remained crucial to the motherland as a religious cushion between the neighbring Muslim states, and the reformed Russian government wasn't about to let it go. As the Soviet military had invaded Afghanistan, the Russian armed forces were detached to the territory of Tselinoyarsk.


 * "Yet the child state, certainly no major military power, somehow prevailed in the conflict. According to rumor, one man had organized a mercenary army, supplied a torrent of arms, and provided training on the ground. The newly independent people named their country Zanzibar Land."


 * Weedle McHairybug 01:45, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's on page 246, if you're curious. Weedle McHairybug 02:01, June 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * Cheers! It's good that we can refer directly to the source now. Is the book any good? I heard the MGS1 and 2 adaptations by Benson weren't that great, but haven't read them myself. --Bluerock 12:13, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, if you thought In the Darkness of Shadow Moses was good, I'm pretty sure you'll find the MGS4 novelization good as well, as they are written in a very similar style and are both giving the impression of being written in-universe by one of the characters (in this case, Hal Emmerich/Otacon). It also expands on some elements of prior games as well as main ones, and some of them even incorporate elements formerly used in the Official Missions Handbook. There are changes, of course. Namely, the Beauty and the Beast Unit is cut from the novel, the part about Solid Snake being taught tracking by Raiden was also removed (in fact, Drebin picked him up via a tip from Otacon), several bits of dialogue were moved around to different parts, and Big Boss apparently ditched the eyepatch, I suspect as a result of the surgery used on him to restore him. Weedle McHairybug 12:26, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's why I'm not sure the novel is 100% outcome. The Beauty and the Beast unit being omitted totally contradicts the game. Also, the ending of MGS3 implied that Big Boss was reluctant to shake Lyndon Johnson's hand because of his involvement in Operation Snake Eater. Not because of John Kennedy's assassination. --76.116.65.4 12:36, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * The novelization does actually still keep that implication (the part about his involvement in Operation Snake Eater, I mean), it just mentioned that his being made president because of Kennedy's assassination was also a contributing factor. And besides, even In the Darkness of Shadow Moses omitted the fights with some of the other FOXHOUND members (certainly Psycho Mantis and the rematches of Sniper Wolf and Vulcan Raven), and that book was definitely canon, seeing how Raiden referred to the book twice. Weedle McHairybug 12:42, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * True, but at least Mantis, Wolf and Raven were actually mentioned in the book. --76.116.65.4 12:45, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, never mind, "Moses" does allude to those fights, but only very briefly. Weedle McHairybug 12:49, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * By the way, thanks for posting articles on Big Boss and Solid Snake. So there are going to be two other new Metal Gear games. I thought Solid Snake was finished. The Patriots are gone, Ocelot and Liquid are dead, and he was knocking on death's door. Who is he going to fight? As for Big Boss, I hope his game reveals whether Paz survived falling head first into the Atlantic Ocean. I would think the fall would be enough to kill her instantly but as you and Bluerock have pointed out, Big Boss has managed to survive those type of falls. --76.116.65.4 18:38, June 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * MGS5 (the one Solid Snake is going to be in) is most likely going to take place some time before Metal Gear Solid 4 (either between MGS1 and MGS2, MG and MG2, or, albeit less likely, MGS2 and MGS4). I'm not sure if they are actually two separate games or if the "Next Metal Gear" and MGS5 are one and the same, though. If they are the same, it's also very likely that it will involve a remake of the MSX2 games. How else are Big Boss and Solid Snake going to be together in a single game? Weedle McHairybug 18:55, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

can we discuss about a few things relating to mgs 2 possibly?


 * Maybe. What's on your mind about it? Weedle McHairybug 21:12, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Solid Snake's potential future appearance in "MGS5"
Hi. I think we better remove that line related to Solid Snake's appearance in the next MGS. Because we're not sure that he will appear in next MGS or another game. If Solid Snake will have a role in next MGS, he'd be portrayed as a child, but this pic shows something else. --Cold Hotman 13:41, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Actually, the earliest possible storyline to include in MGS5, assuming he's the main character, would have him in his late teens, early adulthood, as he participated in the Gulf War during that time. Who knows, maybe they'll do something similar to Metal Gear Solid 2 and have Big Boss be playable for part of the story, and then have Solid Snake continue with the rest with a time skip. Though, you're right, we should reword it to be a future game in general, not necessarily MGS5, although Kojima seemed to imply it was the latter. Weedle McHairybug 13:48, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes! That's a perfect guess. Accidently I thought that Solid Snake and his father exchange the main role through the game. --Cold Hotman 14:15, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

BTW, Where did you get this pic from? Is it from Kojima's Twitter? --Cold Hotman 22:23, July 15, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's either Kojima's twitter account or Koreikado's twitter account. Weedle McHairybug 22:29, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I think I've found some news about the MGS5 on this site:

http://gamingbolt.com/metal-gear-solid-5-authentic-stealth-coming-soon-please-wait-patiently

But everytime I open the page I see an "Error 404". I added the URL, maybe you can read what's inside there. Cold Hotman 14:25, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

I tried Wayback, and it doesn't get me to that link. I also tried searching for it on Bing, but the same results happened. Did you try notifying the staff at gaming bolt about the problem? Weedle McHairybug (talk) 14:52, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

No I didn't. Please contact them, maybe they take care of it. Cold Hotman 15:26, August 13, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Did you contact GamingBolt? Did they respond? Cold Hotman 09:07, August 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I just sent it. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 10:54, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Hi. Is there any video of USC Fox Engine demo? We could add them to the article and that could be so great. This one is for E3 2011:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjFWLEBFlOc&feature=related

Please add it to Fox Engine article. Cold Hotman 14:45, August 16, 2012 (UTC)


 * Since I kinda put myself in a self-imposed ban on Youtube until November at the earliest (I'd explain why, but that would get political which might be a bad idea), I can't verify whether it exists on Youtube or not, and since Youtube as far as I know is the only video site the Wiki allows, I can't say I can add them in even if I do find them on places like GameTrailers.


 * As for the video link you posted, it was difficult, but I started and managed to do it this morning. I should point out for future reference that placing the video link on the main body of the article while it is in source mode is a very bad idea. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:16, August 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for adding the video! Is there any video of Fox Engine demo in USC? Cold Hotman 12:42, August 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I couldn't find one on GameTrailers. I'd check Youtube, but again, I'm on a self-imposed Youtube ban until November 7th of this year at the earliest, and that's assuming certain circumstances don't happen. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:44, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, MGS5 News!

http://gamingbolt.com/metal-gear-solid-5-release-date-summer-2013-by-earliest

Do you think we can add it to the article or it is considered as an speculation? Cold Hotman 13:36, August 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * Given the fact that it's at least stated by a Konami staffer and not simply a blogger, It at least warrants a mention. You might have to ask Bluerock if mentioning it is allowed or if it is speculation, though, since I might be mistaken. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 13:53, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Hi. I finished playing MGS4 a few days ago and there are two things that are really confusing me (specially the first one):


 * The light that is patched up to the M4 turns off a second after I turn it on.


 * I saw the promotional video of Praying Mantis PMC in which a giant mantis chases after a guy trying to escape with a motorcycle, but the other PMCs' promotional videos weren't played in the process of the game.

I finished the game on Solid Normal.

I appreciate your help. Cold Hotman 20:39, September 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * From what TVTropes mentioned, that's actually based on a concept called "Light Discipline", and that is in fact what soldiers are supposed to do during missions outdoors.


 * As for your second question, I think you're supposed to change the channel to find the other PMC recruitment videos. Actually, I know that it was released before Tropic Thunder, but the ads for the PMC reminded me of the ads for Tropic Thunder before the film actually started. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:48, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't get what exactly you meant on the first answer. What are "TVTropes" and "Light Discipline"? I thought that the malfunction of the light patched to the gun is a software glitch. I bought an original Blu-ray disc and I really didn't know that such little annoying things could happen even to original stuff. Cold Hotman 21:05, September 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * TVTropes is a website that deals with tropes, that is, common themes in various stories of multiple media. As for Light Discipline, its a term used in the military that basically means you should try to keep all light source uses sparingly. You can read about it here. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:09, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

I read it. Ok, you mean that you have experienced the same thing when playing MGS4, too? The light patched to Old Snake's gun turns off after you turn it on? I just wanna know is that considered a software glitch or a part of the actual gameply of MGS4. Cold Hotman 21:24, September 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I never even owned a PS3, never mind owned or played MGS4. However, I'm guessing it was intentionally implemented. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:35, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

HOTTEST NEWS!
Hi.


 * The New title for the next canon installment of Metal Gear series was just announced:

Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes !!!

I think we gotta change the article's name now!

I got some sources here in which they mentioned stuffs like a "20 minute demo". The demo is not seeming to be available right now and they just tried to describe it by words.

http://tech2.in.com/news/gaming/metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-information-leaked/402822

http://www.geek.com/articles/games/metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-revealed-20120830/

http://www.gamespot.com/metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes/previews/metal-gear-solid-ground-zeroes-shows-off-fox-engine-shine-and-possible-open-world-elements-6393924/

Cold Hotman 11:58, August 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll make sure to update the information. However, I'll only be covering the demo today. Anything after this point untill less than next week, I'm devoting to uploading images of equipment from Metal Gear Online before I place the files into storage, as I need to clear up my C Drive to allow for more things. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:16, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Adding infos to the article without watching that 20 min. demo is useless. Got a clue where I can watch that video or when it will be available? Cold Hotman 16:29, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Weedle. Would you please add some information to Plot section of Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes? Cold Hotman 21:56, October 20, 2012 (UTC)

Bigphil2695 (talk) 00:32, September 2, 2012 (UTC)Hey00:32, September 2, 2012 (UTC)
how would I go about fixing my pic


 * See my response to your question on your page, since I don't know, but Bluerock most certainly would. Also, the signature is supposed to go after the comment, not the header. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:36, September 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * lol sorry i asked twice


 * hey weedle I think Im going to make a page for a few of the revengeance characters like sam and others so i might have to edit the minor characters page

XOF page
Hi, I think it's the time for creating a page for XOF military group. Cold Hotman 05:07, September 2, 2012 (UTC)

Holy Shit!
You were 100% right about Paz surviving the fall. I completely apologize for doubting you. How the hell could she have survived the impact though? The Navy Seals didn't survive that kind of fall into the water. Anyway, I'm surprised Big Boss forgave Paz enough to decide to save her. This game is gonna rock. --76.116.65.4 15:50, September 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, to be fair, it was foreshadowed in the briefing tape with Chico regarding Paz's motives. Also, they were more rescuing her so they could find out more about Cipher. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 15:54, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

UN UFO Investigations.
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Sorry. --Fantomas (talk) 10:33, September 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, it was a briefing tape in Peace Walker. You can read about it here. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:06, September 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * I would've put "At some point," or something to that effect, with there being no defined date for the briefing tapes (with a reference to the real life dates). But I don't even think it really needs to be on Miller's page, since it's just a single discussion with Big Boss, and he had no direct involvement in the events.
 * I also agree with the anon about Miller's knowledge of Snake's parentage not truly being a retcon of MGS1; Campbell's statements were true as far as he knew (unless this account was officially stated elsewhere), so it should at least be reworded.
 * --Bluerock (talk) 19:40, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Balliscolta?
I'm not Balliscolta. Who the hell is that? I've never even heard of that name. --76.116.65.4 13:10, September 7, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, I found the name on Google.

http://mgsforums.com/topic/7588574/27/

You mispelled the person's name. It's Ballisticola. Not Balliscolta. I'm not Ballisticola. I don't have an account on mgsforums. I see one of the people on that website has one of your famous rants as his signature.--76.116.65.4 13:21, September 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the mistake, anon, you gave a similar argument to him, so I thought you were him. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:06, September 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't look like Bluerock cares. We might as well just forget about it. --76.116.65.4 18:27, September 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've given my opinion above. Apologies for the late response. --Bluerock (talk) 19:42, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

About: Picture
Hey,

This is going to seem a bit embarrasing, but I don't have a suitable camera for taking pictures, Sorry!!

(Actually, I have my laptop's built in WC but that will look awful on the site...

Yeah, I was trying to find a picture of Haven Camo online too, strangely enough couldn't even find a single one.

EDIT: Nevermind, uploaded a few, my arm is killing me (holding laptop in ond hand and controller in other), I done some other photo's but they're awful. Hopefully in future we can get better pictures, Beauty camo looks great though right? ;) Anyway, you're welcome, for the community after all. Yumeyo-yuki (talk) 16:43, September 24, 2012 (UTC)

Wait, doesn't the digital camera in-game allow you to take third person pictures? You could try that, assuming that actually is in the game. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 00:11, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, realised after doing 10 pictures... This weekend or later I'll try to do the rest of the pictures... I saved the game at a pretty bad spot too, after the SM final beauty, now I have to wait for snake to restart the game over (if I'm that unlucky), don't worry, if I'm not busy I'll redo the ones that need it as well, reply back on my talk on how you want the pictures. And which ones if possible. Yumeyo-yuki (talk) 17:37, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

I have to be back at campus soon to finish up what little remains of my programming homework, so I can't comment right now. I will reply to your talk page after I get back, and possibly after NCIS Los Angeles. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:42, September 25, 2012 (UTC)

I don't have PeaceWalker sadly, but I finished off the Camo page. The MGS4 DLC Camos on the Camouflage page looks good now, I have one more shot of Haven on my PC that I took but I don't think it needs it. Yumeyo-yuki (talk) 17:41, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

I think there was also a digital red and digital blue OctoCamo as well, so we're not quite finished yet. Still, congratulations on getting more images for the DLC content uploaded. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:03, September 26, 2012 (UTC)

At the first one, I'll get that done for the DLC section (Blue and Red) probably this weekend or tomorrow (if I don't get extra coursework), as the for PW shirts, I haven't heard from anyone with the game either (best to cross that off lol)... Oh, is there any last things with Camo so I know, or is it just Blue and Red it needs for DLC? Yumeyo-yuki (talk) 19:04, September 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll check back with you if there's anything other DLC camo in MGS4 needing to be uploaded besides the Digital Red and the Digital Blue OctoCamos, although at the present, I don't think there's any other DLC OctoCamo needing to be uploaded. You might need to replace the Beauty screenshot with a more crisper version soon, though. Well, I guess I'll contact Sony and get my PSP fixed so I can get the Monster Hunter shirts, then, since for some reason it won't let me access the PSN, even though I have access to wifi. I have the Japanese version of Peace Walker as well as the American version, so I should take care of that when I get the chance. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 19:49, September 27, 2012 (UTC)

So Sunny is returning.
I'm surprised she hasn't appeared in any trailers. Anyway, I found the pamphlet. It hasn't confirmed Madnar has returned. The character is simply called "Doktor".

http://metalgearsolid.nl/?p=2617

Also, I didn't say Paz is dead, you know? That's why I left her status blank. I certainly hope the XOF leader was lying.


 * Sorry, I couldn't take the risk that you might have not meant she was dead.


 * As for Madnar, it hasn't been confirmed yet. The guy in the VGA trailer that mentioned extracting fluids definitely sounded Russian rather than German, so I can't do a thing yet regarding who that guy is or not until after February, as by that point, the game will be released. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 22:53, September 27, 2012 (UTC)