Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-86.46.22.35-20130403153709/@comment-177.249.103.46-20150407012401

94.6.148.229 wrote: I don't want to guess who convinced the most people that Ishmael was a hallucination, but the narrative of the first VGA trailer was already leading people in December 2012 to question what was real and what was a dream/hallucination. It's understandable to see how that went from an explanation of the unnatural visuals (fire demons) to an explanation of why two characters are voiced by the same actor..

One thing often cited as evidence of Ishmael being a hallucination is that Snake isn't carried or helped to walk by Ishmael, but I've never seen an explanation of why that would be impossible to hallucinate. We already see him driving a car,while he imagines he's in the passenger seat, so why couldn't he walk along imagining that he's being carried? I've seen on many threads amogn this forum things that many people point out as evidence:

One is what you already mentioned of Ishmael not helping Big Boss to walk

Another is the supossed fact that during one of the trailers Ishmael seems to be killed or at least shot at by the XOF soldiers yet seems fine in the next scene, although the person being shot at could have been a different patient.

the other is the fact that Ishmael seemingly vanishes after the ambulance, beacuse Big boss i srescued by Ocelot on horseback and seems to completely forget about Ishmael, but maybe a scene was edited here in order to avoid spoiling Ishmael's identity.

Other thing is we haven't seen Ishamel for a while now he hasn't appeared in any of the new trailers and same goes for Code Talker (NO Im not saying they are the same person)