Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-86.46.22.35-20130403153709/@comment-24745807-20140423014734

42.98.96.64 wrote: 93.186.157.139 wrote: Kojima doesnt really retcon. Do you know what actually happens? Its that the info is only interpreted by the character in a certain way which is then clarified later. The onyl real retcon i can think of off the top of my head are the few details in the events of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2(Gray Fox and Snake fighting naked in a minefield*okay maybe not naked* and Big Boss telling Snake he is his father which is all now canon and will need to be corrected if they make a remake of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2:Solid Snake) and also the most prominent and annoying one of all was in Metal Gear Solid 2 when Liquid Ocelot says that "Big Boss was in his late 50's when he created his copies". We all all know it was in 1972 when he was 37 years old just before Peace Walker. Hell even in TPP he's in his late 40's(He's actually 49 in the game) and just about to be 50. I mentioned a few times in other discussions - if you look at the beginning of Act 2 of MGS4 (after the briefing but before you start playing), Snake clarified two things

(1) that the Patriots aren't a bunch of people died 100 yrs ago - his reasons are simple - the Disc that they got from Ocelot carries fake information.

(2) Naomi was freed from her post-MGS1 detention by Ocelot, but back in MGS2's [In the Darkness of Shadow Moses] "written" by Nastasha, she hinted that it was Snake who did it. Snake simply said [the US govt.] also thought he was the one responsible.

As long as Kojima finds a reasonable way to explain "inconsistancy", I won't call it a retcon. Thus the only time that I can think of him retconning is for the two earliest MG games.

Now onto the part with Liquid Snake's comment on Big Boss' age, don't forget that Liquid may not have been told the truth to begin with. All long-time MGS fans would recall Liquid died thinking that he is the inferior one when in fact he's the superior one, I won't be surprised if Kojima applies the same principle to say Liquid was misinformed of Big Boss' age. And in the case of Liquid Ocelot, the laziest way Kojima can "explain" his comment is that Ocelot lies (as he always does). Anyway, this is just how I see it and I am interested to see how Kojima tackle this in-game. I like what you're saying here. I personally don't think Kojima would be the one to take the easy/lazy way out. I think there is definitely something more to Ocelot than we think. Perhaps a double identity?