Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-5085906-20140619165117/@comment-71.204.220.95-20150204154327

Paranoid Donkey wrote: For what it's worth I think you're far too aggrivated over something so insignificant, but let's go through this piece by piece.

- For what it's worth: you couldn't present a compelling argument to save your life, dude... If a creator deems his own system of ideas as a mere joke and mockery to not be considered genuine, then that is actually significant and indeed changes the value, seeing as how this particular theory gained high volume and notoriety. Being "aggravated", as you want to put it, never came from me wanting a link. The "aggravation", came from you and Jim Logan's blatant lack of comprehension to my posts with HIS annoying condescension, and YOUR nonsensical beating around the bushes with robotic regurgitation. A simple "No, I don't have the link", or "No, I never seen this source myself" would have sufficed. Instead, you decided to go with the ridiculous route of "LOL the request doesn't matter because CONTENTS!!" BS, when that's entirely subjective and insignificant to what I'm asking.

Paranoid Donkey wrote: Neither Jim nor myself claimed that there is any evidence whatsoever that the theory is a joke, you're literally arguing a point that nobody is refuting. - Wtf?!.. LOL!.. Are we chatting inside the same thread? This very topic disagrees with you. It literally didn't even take me 3 minutes to see 2 users (0NightHawk0 & Wiki Contributer 177.249.101.8) blatantly say The Creator of the theory himself said it was a joke theory. I'm sure there are more people who announced it, in this topic if I actually looked more thoroughly in this bible-sized thread. And as I pointed out, that claim has been said all across other media outlets. You two kept responding to my post and arguing with me while stating your opinion about the theory in general, even though I never asked or cared about it. Why wouldn't I ask you two for a source under these conditions?

Paranoid Donkey wrote: And as Bluerock says above, and as I said in my last post, I doubt there is any proof that it's a joke because it probably wasn't. Stranger theories have been submitted in earnest just on this site alone.

- LMAO BULL****! You didn't say any of that.

Please DO NOT sync your terrible cookie-cutter response with BlueRock's response. His comment was basically proposing, that someone might have thrown the idea of the creator possibly making it as a joke without reflecting on the actions. It would make sense if and the idea spiraled out of context throughout media outlets to be taken as objective-truth. YOUR cookie-cutter comments did not remotely share this reaction or wavelength. All you said was "CONTENTS, IT DOESN'T MATTER! CONTENTS! IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FATE OF THE THEORY! CONTENTS, CONTENTS! WHY DO YOU EVEN CARE BTW? CONTENTS! IT'S NOT BACKPEDALING, IT'S A POINTLESS DISCUSSION! CONTENTS! JUST ASSUME IT WAS MADE UP SO YOU CAN GO SLEEP! CASE CLOSED!"

Paranoid Donkey wrote: But, the reason I have repeated words like a "mechanical parrot" is because the theory being a joke or not doesn't matter in the least with regards to its content. I honestly have no idea what you don't understand here.

- This is indeed becoming baffling, because even when you're explaining why you were being a mechanical parrot, you ironically just did it again with your response.

I grasped what you were saying. You don't seem to understand that I'm explaining why you are wrong in what you're saying. It was used in many arguments excessively. Well before Kojima Productions even acknowledged the theory themselves, and well afterwards. As such, it's only logical for a person to ask for the source that so many people have imposed, if not to solidify a point, then to at least transform a myth into absolute certainty. Ironically, you're still spewing off about "contents!"

It's like you guys (you and Jim) purposely kept eluding that I don't give a rat's ass about this theory in general, nor am I a supporter or opposer of this crap. You two are obviously opposers of the theory. Me asking for a link in challenging it being considered a joke by the creator himself or not, shouldn't have sent any kind of flags for you to dismiss my request for nonsensical reasons.

Paranoid Donkey wrote: Your martyrdom on behalf of the Metal Gear Solid community is noted, but honestly I don't think anyone is all that concerned about how we're perceived outside it. We're just here to discuss games and theories until the next release.

- Love how you're acting as if the MGS community is utterly pragmatic with their fanboyism. Trust me, this fanbase isn't just limited to discussing games and theories. Most MGS fans are very attached on a emotional scale to the series. As of consequence and by design: the reputation is starting to become as bad (possibly worse) as the FF fanbase. Death threats to developers and loud hostile trolling over avatar preferences and voice preferences doesn't scream "tamed."

Paranoid Donkey wrote: Considering you talk about the Metal Gear Solid community as though you are outside of it, I'll assume you are. In which case how the commentary about whether the theory is a joke or not concerns you so much is baffling. If you knew anything about the series it's that Kojima never outright confirms or denies something about the plot, he just uses vague wording and Stephanie Joosten's words are undoubtedly advised from Kojima himself. Chico is a male and Quiet is definitely a female. How you interpret that is up to you, I suppose. It's not irrefutable evidence but certainly reasonable ammunition for whatever camp one sits in.

- My God, WTF?!. Is there anything you can comprehend from MY posts?! You're arguing with me just to ultimately agree with me. Jim Logan purposely misquoted Stephanie Jooston to strengthen his own point that Chico is not Quiet with "last word" conviction. I pointed that out by telling him that's not what she said, and elaborated on why she didn't debunk it. He made a blatant lie.

3 days ago, YOU SAID AND I QUOTE: ''Yup, what Jim said. Confirmed by Kojima and Stephanie Joosten (y'know, her voice/motion actor and stuff) to be BS, and the only reason Kojima retweeted it was because he found it humourous.''

Now, here you are, saying it's "not irrefutable evidence", can be used by both sides, and here you are, agreeing with me about it being indefinite, but yet you're acting like I'M the one that's misunderstood, and not observant to Kojima's tactics, even after I did Jim's job for him, and cited out JunkerHQ as his source with conflictions, due to him keep spewing "If you saw TGS, Word of mouth, word of mouth!!", as if he understood Kojima's native tongue.... Seriously Wtf Am I being trolled?

Paranoid Donkey wrote: To summarise: Nobody in the recent posts of the thread is insisting on the existence of any proof that the creator of the Chico = Quiet theory said it was joke. There probably isn't any. Either way, it doesn't matter because it doesn't affect the content at all. Nobody has a link and nobody really cares to find one because as I said, it doesn't matter. This will be my last response to you, I hope you'll be civil to the other members in future responses.

- Wow. Thank GOD this is your last response to me, because your replies have been surprisingly frustrating.

My initial post LITERALLY says: '''I keep seeing random people say this started out as a joke and the creator admitted it. But yet I've NEVER seen the source of this claim. Does anybody have a link to this?'''

Do you understand what that means? Let me break the notes down for you. "I keep seeing random people say this started out as a joke and the creator admitted it." - is an observation in general, not limited to a specific timetable.... ''But yet I've NEVER seen the source of this claim. Does anybody have a link to this?"'' - is a request aimed at anyone who HAS the link.... It doesn't matter if nobody "recent" in this topic is insisting on proof. It's an easily accessible public thread that anybody "like myself" can stumble upon, and could acknowledge with a yes, no, or idk. Doubly for those who were here before. I'm not on any kind of schedule here.

And no, I'm quite "civil". Don't try to make me out to be the bad guy here because you couldn't grasp anything I said and dismissing my request, while the other guy you were teaming with resorted to being pretentious.

I'm in disbelief with how ridiculous this has gotten.