Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-58.172.124.48-20141005022154/@comment-1672596-20141030183612

SolidBiscuit wrote: It's fairly clear Eli is Liquid. There's so many references.


 * 1) 1 The Eliab and David thing from the bible, these guys were brothers.

The eldest son of  Jesse, and thus the older brother of  King David. He was apparently tall and had fair features, but not the proper heart to be king of  Israel (1 Samuel 16:7). -Wikipedia

1.   2 The Japanese writing on the back says Liquid Man. Nuff said.


 * 1) 3 Appearance, age, location all fits.  And when I say location I mean being with Big Boss, who trained both him and Solid Snake from an early age.


 * 1) 4 His voice actor in TPP is a British voice actor.

As for Liquid not looking like BB, I totally agree. And I blame Hideo for that. He has a tendency to alter Snake's (and Big Boss') appearance subtly or not from game to game* depending on which actor he currently has a man-crush on. Liquid with his short upturned nose looks a hell of a lot like Sutherland did. The earliest pics I can find of him were his Lost Boys days, but Eli is a pretty darn good design of what Sutherland would have looked like at 12.


 * Here's an incomplete list of Kojima's man crushes which have changed the appearance of Snake and Big Boss over the years.  I'm also expecting some kind of silly facial surgery retcon in MGS5 at some point, which will give Big Boss Sutherlands face.

Kurt Russel. Michael Biehn. Sean Connery. Sylvester Stallone. David Duchovny. Bruce Willis. That stuff means little in the long run, not unless the game is actually released. I mean, honestly, we also got a lot of evidence that we'd be playing as Solid Snake in MGS2, yet guess what, we got Raiden instead. That part was especially infamous for its time.

And like I said, if Kojima wanted Eli to be Liquid, he either would have stated it directly or otherwise strongly imply that they are the same (like he did with Naked Snake, Ocelot in MGS3, Miller, and Huey).