Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-12.219.243.130-20150619171033/@comment-1672596-20150705170555

Kornflakes89 wrote: Weedle McHairybug wrote:

And for the record, for the other response:

1. Metal Gear Solid 4 mentioned "dozens of failures" before the project bore fruit in MGS4, specifically EVA's speech to Snake. I wasn't even taking into account of the novelization much when I cited it, since I cited an actual in-game example. Oh, and for the record, that bit of the novelization was actually covered by Kojima in one of his audio blogs. Heck, he even was the one who told the author to add it in. Ask Ben Reilly. He'll tell you.

2. That was DEFINITELY Paz's body. It's not someone with Big Boss's body since the body looks more feminine compared to Big Boss. The only other major female taken into account, Quiet, lacks a gut scar.

@Soul reaper: It's still going to be in The Phantom Pain, though, which is what matters.

1, Like the other guy said, who said Eva wasn't misinformed? Or that she never looked into the project too deeply because she knew Big Boss didn't like it and just assumed that they had made several attempts before the one that took?

And your point about that is? Kojima was also the one who told the Twin Snakes cutscene director to make them the way they are, doesn't mean that Snake canonically springboarded off a live missile and hovered in the air long enough to aim, lock on and fire his Stinger.

2, And where is the confirmation that that definitely is for 100% without a doubt fact, Paz's body? Did you see a face? Did anyone come out and actually say it? No to both of them, so it is not definitely Paz's body.

Who says the scarred person has to be a major character? Who says it can't be some random POW rescued during one of the main missions? Or one of the people that's being experimented on like the black guy with the ear bud in his throat and the messed up chest?

Also find if funny that you completely ignored my point about new trailer chick being someone completely different but Big Boss is only hallucinating seeing her as Paz. Odds are if I made a crack about you having some kind of warped crush on Paz, you'd have only responded to that and ignored everything else.

Like I said, we have no real confirmation that new trailer chick is in fact Paz, for all we know it could be a young Sniper Wolf, all you're doing is jumping to conclusions and stating things as facts when all it is is you stating what you believe as fact, until there's an actual confirmation on who new trailer chick is, it's pointless to say it's without a doubt Paz and childish for you to keep going on as if it was already confirmed. By that logic, I guess Portable Ops must not be canon despite Kojima explicitly stating that it is, even if it's not made by him (not that I personally believe Portable Ops is non-canon, but if we're going to play that game, you can't even take what he says as canon).

So far as Paz, 1. I don't have a crush on her. Actually, in all honesty, I hated the fact that she was even potentially brought back in The Phantom Pain, considering I didn't like her at all in Peace Walker due to her basically making a LOT of needless jabs at America beyond even what her cover position as a KGB agent and a Cipher agent could handle (ie, basically slamming America for everything wrong with Costa Rica despite the fact that the Soviets not only being just as responsible as America was for the ills of Costa Rica, they even were the ones who started these bad things in some cases, like how the FSLN and KGB were the ones who started the drug trade in Costa Rica and this is despite Amanda even admitting to her and her unit's role in the drug trade and their effectively starting it in Costa Rica, long before the CIA/Peace Sentinel took over the joint), and I felt that bringing her back pretty much cheapened her sacrifice in Ground Zeroes, probably the one good thing about her. 2. If they really wanted to avoid this sort of speculation, they should have kept Paz off, including avoiding ANY image that even POINTS to Paz in any way (and BTW, the figure was a woman, the figure had a "V-shaped" scar in the same shape and position as Paz's scar, so that really should settle some doubts). And considering the focus they gave her, it's pretty clear she was intended to be semi-important. And BTW, the fact that Ocelot was present and didn't give any indication that he was seeing anything differently from Big Boss (we'd see a split screen with different features if they wanted to indicate they were seeing the same thing differently) makes pretty clear they were seeing the same thing and the same way.

And we definitely know it's not a young Sniper Wolf, considering that she's not even born during the time of the game (she would have been an infant or a toddler at the latest during Saddam's attempted extermination of the Kurds, in 1987, considering that she explicitly called the screams and gunfire her lullabies. The game takes place in 1984, well before Saddam's attempted extermination.).