Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-98.234.99.168-20150703054955/@comment-42.98.40.129-20150706130615

Kornflakes89 wrote:

1.64.55.185 wrote: As far as the existing MG saga goes, Solid doesn't know that Big Boss is his father until the very end of MG2-SS, and he doesn't know that he got a twin (be it Liquid or Solidus) until the mission briefing of MGS1, but Liquid has already know these facts prior to the start of MGS1, possibly informed by Ocelot (President Johnson said to Raiden in MGS2 that Ocelot provoked Liquid Snake to bring about the MGS1 events). Since Solidus was the one sending Ocelot, he must have known prior to MGS1 too. So one possibility is that we are seeing Liquid and Solidus in that shot, rather than Solid.

Now just in case that is Solid Snake, to provide a theory for him not knowing a thing, instead of saying it's hallucination or retcon, I suggest that Mantis may have brain-washed him (come on, even for people with IQ score less than 180, one cannot forget someone with the same face as himself when meeting this other person at the age of 12 right?). Mantis is confirmed (by Liquid) to have the ability of brain-washing.

The hair colour and scars bits still puzzle me, regardless that other boy is Solid or Solidus. Perhaps as someone said before, hair colour is changable as either of the young Snake matures? And then the scars - if Big Boss is retcon to have no scar at all during MGS4 (despite having a huge debris in his forehead), why can't they retcon (in a much less obvious way) that the twin Snakes / Solidus have slight scratches to their faces during childhood?

Any thoughts or comments? The problem with that is that Solidus was made to age faster than Solid and Liquid were, around this time he'd have already had the appearance of a young adult and would be kidnapping, brainwashing and training child soldiers. And Solidus is supposed to be a 100% perfect copy of Big Boss, so he'd have had brown hair just like his clone daddy.

Sure that is a possibility, but then it would just come down to having Solid Snake in the game just for the sake of having him in the game, adding characters in just to have them there isn't really a good idea.

And there's an easy explanation for Big Boss having no scars in MGS4, that's not his skin, it's Solidus's, so he wouldn't have had any of the scars he had prior to being torched in MG2. The hair colour complicates things so much. By real world genetics theory, Liquid's hair is the result of recessive genes, but Ocelot said that he is the dorminant one. Now it could be, Zero or Ocelot, is only referring to the combat abilities of the Twin Snakes, when they are talking about dorminant or recessive (Come on, the whole point is to create a few copies of a strong soldier, not a model with a specific hair / eye colour!). Furthermore, if they already have difficulties in cloning human alone back in those days, separating genetic materials perfectly by dorminant and recessive is even harder. It could just be that Liquid, seeing his hair colour, mistaken himself to be the recessive.

Big Boss' scars still puzzle me. Do you mean the MGS4 Big Boss had his face from Solidus? It's the first time I heard this but my understanding had always been that the MGS4 Big Boss has his own head, whereas the rest of his body was builded by either Liquid or Solidus' body. Have I missed anything?

Btw, that Mantis suggestion may work in the end, who knows?