Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-166.137.88.23-20130610185107/@comment-1.64.177.16-20130618131900

Bluerock wrote:

Charliegian wrote: Just watched some MGS1 Cutscenes, some interesting things:

(I'm refering to the times in this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLTqIXZ1jQQ)

1.)   [2:31:40] Liquid talks to snake about how they are really twins, pay attention at around [2:32:39], Liquid says, "But....I'm the one father chose" Interesting.

2.)   [2:43:33] Liquid talks about the Les Enfents Terribles project, pay attention at around [2:43:54], Liquid mentions the (apparent) coma we now see BB in the trailers. 1) The delivery of that line did seem like Big Boss had chosen Liquid as some sort of successor, in the original MGS1 at least. However, I think The Twin Snakes remake changed this dialogue (or made it more clear), so that Big Boss's "choice" was actually that Liquid would be the inferior clone, whereas the original only said that Big Boss had told him personally that he was inferior.

2) Different comas. The one Liquid mentions occurred around the time of Les Enfants Terribles (c.1971-72). This first coma is only mentioned in the English version of MGS1. The coma in the TPP trailers is 1975 onwards. I just looked up both versions:

In the original (After Liquid said he's the leftovers/garbage): "But I'm the one father chose" and then "He always told me I was inferior, and now I'll have my revenge!!"

In TTS (After a similar line): "But I'm the one father chose" and then "He is choosing me knowingly, to be the inferior one!? For this I want revenge!!"

So the original version had at least some degree of (if not a very strong) implication that BB and Liquid met in person more than just once and told Liquid that he was the recessive clone (although there is no clue to whether BB knows who actually is the inferior one), while in TTS, despite the remake left an open door for Kojima to say Liquid learned what he knew indirectly, I think the main point remains that Liquid thinks he is the recessive one and based his hatred on this "fact" regardless of how he learned it (which is true to both versions)

For the coma part, I don't think we were ever told that BB only fell into a coma just once prior to Outer Heaven, so technically a 9 year coma after the 1972 coma still does not contradicts with each other.