Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-66.56.44.237-20130617084327/@comment-64.33.250.214-20150622130343

Weedle McHairybug wrote: Maybe so, but even IF Chico were to be a clone, not to mention a Les Enfants Terribles clone, he still is not Solidus. Remember, Solidus Snake was created AFTER The Twin Snakes (ie, Solid and Liquid Snake), specifically to act as a key to their system. Chico, based on his stated age, would be born at least two years before Les Enfants Terribles occurred, meaning he was most likely born well before even Solid and Liquid Snake were born. Assuming he were indeed a LET clone, he's most likely be one of the failures that both Liquid and EVA alluded to.

Oh, and since you're getting into someone's skin color as whether someone's a Latino/Latina, did you know that the blonde star of 1,000,000 BC is Latina herself? You wouldn't guess it from her appearance, yet she actually is, apparently she actually stated she was such.

Also, correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't recall Strangelove really doing ANYTHING that went against Big Boss's chain of command (her torturing Big Boss doesn't count as she wasn't even a MSF member at the time she did so). Nor do I really remember Huey doing anything like that in Peace Walker, though he did definitely do something to that effect in Ground Zeroes.

LET began in 1972. Chico's stated age would actually make him 10 years older than LET. However, that's missing my point entirely. Chico's age, and perhaps even the start date of the LET project, could easily be falsified. If the LET date is not retconned by Kojima, and Chico is a clone, that would make him 2 years old. Which sounds ridiculous at first, until you stop and consider all the wacky pseudo-science that exists in the franchise. Phantom Pain is set in 1984, and has complex robots and "zombies" (the Skulls) which use stealth technology. None of this science, even the LET project, is currently possible in the real world.

Blonde hair and light skin is largely an English/European trait. If a Latina woman is natural blonde, she's either a genetic anomaly, or she has European genetics. Europeans have been interacting and "mingling" with Latin people for hundreds of years.

Maybe it wasn't Peace Walker, maybe it was Ground Zeroes. That's all minor technicalities. Strangelove left Boss and MSF under mysterious circumstances, and Huey is somewhat responsible for the attacks on Mother Base in GZ. If they truly placed Boss's chain of command as their top priority, they wouldn't have engaged in suspicious behavior.

Weedle McHairybug wrote:

Jim Logan wrote: Solid's never had blond hair, that crappy briefing was retconned with Twin Snakes. Well, semi-retconned, anyways. Don't forget that MGS4 mainly used the MGS visuals instead of the Twin Snakes visuals for MGS1-related flashbacks, and that Ground Zeroes' Deja Vu mission primarily used MGS's visuals and not The Twin Snakes.

It's true that Solid's hair color was retconned, but if you recall the explanation given for Liquid's hair, and how it was bleached blonde from being in the sun, then it's possibly the same could have happened to Solid if he were in a sunny environment for a long enough time.

0nighthawk0 wrote: Yeah but those were actually somewhat believable, Chico being Solidus isn't believable, not by a long shot. You don't turn a boy who's clearly latino (you can argue skin color all you want, his voice is what matters, not to mention his facial features, coloration of hair and eyes) into a man who's clearly a born American. Also, there is absolutely nothing whatsoever that links Solidus to Chico.

I wouldn't throw around the term "believable" when it comes to MGS. The LET project is a sci-fi concept. It's not possible in 2015 to make perfect clones like Solidus, much less in the 70s.

Foreign accents are not something you need to be born with. Paz was raised in America, and adopted Costa Rican culture and an accent when she was an adult.

Chico has the same hair color as Solid Snake (see MGS2), and same eye color as Liquid. We know nothing about Solidus's childhood or where he was raised.

Chico went on a solo operation to infiltrate Camp Omega. That's unusual for a character who has no importance in the future timeline. It's normally Snakes who do infiltration missions.

Weedle McHairybug wrote:

177.249.112.38 wrote: having white skin doesn't make you not Latino. I'm Mexican, son of mexican parents and my skin is the same color as chico's. Latino people are not 100% dark skined, some of us have white skin. And like the guy above said his voice and his accent sound like someone who is used to speaking spanish, also IF Chico was Solidus then what the hell is he doing in Nicaragua with Nicaraguan militia pretending to be one of them?

Yeah, and that's ignoring the obvious bit as to how Solidus could have been born long before Solid and Liquid Snake and yet stated to be created after them?

I didn't say Latinos can't be white, just that it's unusual. It's not only a matter of skin, but hair color also. Chico isn't Mexican, he's Nicaraguan. I Googled pictures of Nicaraguan people, and none of them looked like Chico or Amanda. Which raises questions about the validity of their ethnicity. Maybe their mother was white?

It's possible to fake an accent or grow one by spending enough time in a foreign location. What's young Liquid Snake (and Solid?) doing in Africa? We know Zero wants to test the clone's survival capabilities and be deterrents for Big Boss.