Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5085906-20130627191357/@comment-64.33.250.214-20150830190724

Weedle McHairybug wrote: Honestly, despite what that Spainkiller stated on NeoGAF thread, MGSV's twist was a very bad move. It's not simply because we don't get to play as Big Boss. Done right, not playing as Big Boss actually would give us a very good outside perspective on how he falls from grace. However, the way they did it, there's little indication that Big Boss even fell, especially when Venom Snake effectively takes over that bit. There's also the story problems this presents. Namely, it cheapens a LOT of MGS4's story. Since not only are Big Boss, Ocelot, heck, possibly even EVA are in on the whole Venom Snake thing, and probably would know that Zero was going to become a vegetable by the 1980s, pretty much everything in MGS4, namely reviving Big Boss, euthanizing Zero, Ocelot becoming Liquid, all of it was basically pointless, and it also cheapens a nice and bittersweet reconciliation and reunion Solid Snake had with Big Boss, EVA, and technically Liquid. Heck, it pretty much made all the games taking place after it exceedingly pointless as well, since there would have been no point to the S3 Plan at all since the expressed desire for the S3 Plan was to mold someone into a certain figure, and thus control society (then again, Zadornov's plan in Peace Walker also basically rendered S3 pointless as well, but at least with that it was intended for Snake to kill off America anyhow indirectly, not benefit Cipher/the Patriots). Heck, Les Enfants Terribles basically was rendered extremely pointless with this game, since who needs cloning if you can effectively mold someone into being a new Big Boss? Agreed on pretty much all fronts. This is possibly the most inconsistent Kojima has ever been in terms of continuity. There are some hit or miss character developments in the game (I actually liked the idea Zero never hated Big Boss), but Big Boss as his own character gets none because it's handed to the player/Venom. The whole story seems to exist around covering up loose ends. Even then it only manages to explain how Big Boss appeared to survive MG1, and not how he became a madman, who raised child soldiers and sought perpetual war.

A part of me still holds out hope that there'll be a patch for a "real ending", but making character customization part of the plot twist seems like too much effort for just a ruse. If there is DLC, it may be for something else entirely. David Hayter fans have suggested there's a patch for a mission in Outer Heaven, based on the Operation Intrude n313 cassette tape. Venom seems to exit the scene as though he's about to confront someone or something.

I mentioned before how I thought Metal Gear could be just as good with Kojima out of the franchise. There's a scene in Portable Ops which showed how much Big Boss valued his soldiers. One of them jumped in front of gun fire to shield him, and Big Boss screams in anger over it. Now cut to Phantom Pain, where Big Boss is not only okay with letting one of his soldiers be a shield, but it's implied he sends his clone to kill him.