Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5038094-20140721042428/@comment-1504072-20140906140126

Weedle, at least structure your responses so they are at least intelligible. Seriously, bullet points would work wonders.

Weedle McHairybug wrote: All they need to do is incorporate several of the stuff stated into the manual into the actual game for MG2's remake, and the filler problem is solved.

I really don't think that's enough content to create an engaging story. At best, they'd be optional radio conversations.

Weedle McHairybug wrote: ...there's how FOXHOUND's founding was retconned constantly since MGS1, eventually being settled with MGS3/MPO...

There was ONE retcon (NATO=>U.S. Army as its parent organization). Besides which, that was purely manual content, which was not in the final game.

Weedle McHairybug wrote: ...and how if we go by MGS4, heck, even to a lesser extent MGS2, not only is OILIX not even mentioned, but they don't even acknowledge how it saved the world or not at all and even implied a few times from both Roy Campbell and EVA/Big Mama that a terrible oil economy was largely responsible for the advent of the war economy in MGS4, despite the fact that OILIX shouldn't even allow for an oil shortage...

So OILIX was never successfully implemented. I imagine such an endeavor would be a hugely complex task to carry out. Campbell and Holly were optimistic at the end of MG2.

Weedle McHairybug wrote: Solid Snake also came across as being the same character in MGS that he was in MG2, even though he explicitly stated he succeeded in ending his nightmares of Outer Heaven.

Surely that's a fault of MGS1 then? Should MGS1 be remade to address this? Of course not. Besides which, PTSD isn't something that's just magically cured in an instant, let alone in a day.

Weedle McHairybug wrote: That's not even getting into the huge alterations in certain characters backstories, such as Gray Fox and Master Miller, even Big Boss's backstory to a lesser extent.

HUGE alterations? Nonsense. Kojima stated MPO doesn't quite fit continuity even though its canon, so that covers Fox, except for Vietnam (one inconsistency is hardly a reason to remake an entire game, as I said just reword it in a non-3D re-release/remake). Miller, he worked against Big Boss later on, so what? People's motivations change with the times. Big Boss's backstory was fleshed out over time, again just reword the little inconsistencies.

Weedle McHairybug wrote: And Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, heck, possibly even The Phantom Pain strongly contradicted with the narrative that Big Boss's ties to Outer Heaven were kept a secret, even from Zero, until AFTER the Outer Heaven Uprising in 1995

I don't recall this EVER being contradicted. The state of Outer Heaven in South Africa and Big Boss's relationship with the U.S. military around that period have not even been explored.

Weedle McHairybug wrote: ...which means Kojima basically made remakes inevitable.

No writer or story is perfect, however much you may want them to be. As I said reword all the little inconsistencies for all the pedants out there and touch up the game graphically so it looks and plays nicely, but don't create an entirely new 3D game with little resemblance to the originals (which is what is being argued for).

Remakes of the classic games will not make the series come full circle, rather it will just create an endless cycle of remakes as the older games inevitably become aged and outdated. Time to move on.