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1.64.177.239 wrote: 64.33.250.214 wrote:

Please refer to the above for details I agree with pretty much everything you stated, and am holding onto the possibility that the there is some misleading and fakery going on in these leaks. If everything turns out true, then MGSV will cheapen a lot of things. The special moments we see in the game, like Boss taking a selfie with Ocelot, Quiet lighting his cigar with her sniper rifle, DD licking Boss's face, and Boss rocket punching people with his prosthetic arm, all of that would be stripped from Boss's character for the sake of a M Night Shyamalan surprise twist.

Weedle McHairybug wrote:

1.64.177.239 wrote:

Weedle McHairybug wrote: ^Don't forget the screencaps, especially the bit about Snake and Ocelot near the motorbike after Mission 46, and the leaked ending timeline. Sorry I missed these, where can I find them? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=176512519&postcount=3508http://i.imgur.com/bhqltGm.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PKk8X1X.jpg Not sure about that first image, as it's possible Big Boss has the horn and prosthetic arm removed (we don't see or hear about them in the original MSX games).

The last image could easily be faked. Maybe it isn't, but I'm not accepting these leaks as irrefutable proof until sources outside Neogaf and reddit can back them up. I see what this webpage is trying to tell now, but there are still questions

(1) How come the Medic was unwittingly acting as Big Boss?????? So that implies he lost his memory and thought he is Big Boss, until he listens to the tape?

(2) I thought EVA in MGS4, said Zero "lost his friend (the real Big Boss)" after the two interpreted The Boss' will differently, so that had to mean that was actually Big Boss who left Zero but Zero still cared for him and wanted him back, and Zero would welcome Big Boss if he wishes to come back?

(3) Assuming the simple answer to (2) is a "Yes", that was the reason why Big Boss managed to regain his control in FOXHOUND (supposedly an organization under Zero's control after Big Boss left)?

(4) Why would the real Big Boss wanted to kill the fake one in 1995, when the fake one is actually fighting against Zero (Whom Big Boss wanted to break away from in the first place and later in 1999, rebelled against)? Just because he is tired of the fake guy became too evil like Skull Face?

(5) Hey, in any case, the real Big Boss lost MSF and fell into a coma (although for shorter than the fake one, if he does exist) due to Skull Face and (at least indirectly) Zero, so he keeps changing his mind from time to time between forgiving and revenging Zero?

Btw if indeed the Big Boss we played as is an imposter, that means Eli (Liquid) was probably deceived by the imposter that he was inferior, and hell, do Big Boss and Zero love or hate one another anyway?????? Oh and Big Boss did say at the end of MGS4 to Snake that he erased him twice prior to that cutscene -- it gets really messy now.

Just one other side tracking again, images itself may not be reliable evidence, at least for the modern day courts in where I live in, and let's not forget, if the horn does grow, it means it can be "squeeze out" as time pass, and the left arm was quite well covered in that image...



I'm glad there are more people actually trying to analyze this new information and not accepting it at face value. A number of the images we've seen so far are out of context and some appear easy enough to fake. But if any of the leak turns out turn, then it's going to cause editors of this site (ie Weedle) some trouble sorting out what's been retconned, and what can be salvaged to still match up with established canon. Like going back and figuring out how much of Outer Heaven and its aftermath were the result of Venom. How the legacy of Outer Heaven might be effected if Boss wasn't directly involved in running the place.

The games all tie back to the legend of Outer Heaven. The clones were all living in the shadow of Big Boss's actions within the first game, and his betrayal of former allies Solid and Zero. An even which these spoilers imply Boss never had direct involvement in. Liquid Ocelot even based Outer Haven on Outer Heaven and the fulfillment of Boss's ideals. Even if it was Boss's plan to let a body double establish Outer Heaven, if the body double was not a willing participant and went rogue, the whole plan would have fallen apart. The body double plan depends on so much going right that Boss wouldn't have total control over.