Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-166.137.88.23-20130610185107/@comment-80.75.99.120-20130621233858

Crony wrote: Actually the "Liquid Ocelot" case is not that simple. The way i understand it, Ocelot really was possessed in MGS2. It's backed up by the fact that you could hear Liquid voice back then, and the fact that Ocelot is the son of the Boss and the Sorrow. Being the son of the Sorrow, he inherited his psychic powers, allowing Liquid's mind to possess him through the arm. That's also somehow stated in MGS4, where it's stated that Ocelot removed Liquid's arm and used a prothesis instead, because Liquid's arm "disturbed his psyche". From what i understand from that, Ocelot actually "played" being Liquid only after he removed the said arm. But before that, he was really possessed due to his inherent psychic powers. Yeah I agree Liquid most definetely was in charge atleast during "possessings" in MGS2, as it really wouldn't even make sense if Ocelot was just acting back then.

Also I know it's not official truth we were told about Liquid Ocelot, but since truth about him is pretty much shrouded in mystery, I like to take the speculation further and think in the Guns of the Patriots he'd still have been the same mind or "spirit" of Liquid that controlled Ocelot in Sons of Liberty, as we were never really explained how the arm was enough to bring Liquid back and possess Ocelot in the first place. It was stated that Ocelot removed the arm because it disturbed his psyche, but then used hypnotherapy, nanos and drugs to basically make his own psyche like Liquid's. If there were still some weak remnant of the spirit of Liquid left by the arm, he could have basically given it change to take over again by fusing his own personality with it, and unlike with the arm possessions, there wouldn't be two different personalities in one body fighting over whose in control. I also think the fact that Psycho Mantises spirit was "possessing" Screaming Mantis via rather similar method supports this theory.

As stated this is just my speculation that I prefer over the "official truth" given by Big Boss mainly because I personally find it more satisfying, than the whole thing being just Ocelot acting Liquid. As much as I like Ocelot as a character, I can't really see him as a main villain (he is more Boba Fett kinda guy than Darth Vader so to say) and in my oppinion Liquid fits that kind of part much better for not only being more menacing and giving of feeling of stronger opponent than Ocelot, but also having stronger connection to Solid Snake as an antagonist (feeling of connection to protagonist being maybe the most essential thing that makes MGS main villains cool IMO).

Even though aforementioned is just a speculation, there are also some rather odd things about the "official explanation", like how could Ocelot actually fool the logically functioning AI System to believe he was possessed by a spirit of the dead man just acting like he was, or why was such an illogigal and ridicoulously complicated ruse needed in the first place instead of Ocelot starting rebellion as himself? I'd personally imagine somehow Liquid was needed to get him out of System's control and to cathering the PMC forces that could shield them from Patriots eyes instead of just getting them to send Snake after him

And finally there is one question that can't possibly be explained by mere act. Why did Ocelot die to the new Foxdie-virus pretty much immediately after Liquid's persona faded from him completely after brief talk to Snake after their final battle, but hadn't had any kind of effect during weeks before when Liquid's persona was controlling him, even though he and Snake met several times during that time, and still same virus was able to kill Eva in couple of hours and Big Boss in about half of one? That leads me to believe somehow being in Liquid-persona managed to change the very functioning of Liquid Ocelot's body so his heart didn't catch Foxdie, until Ocelot was his old self again. Certainly not possible if there was nothing but acting to it.