Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-86.45.17.40-20150909104026/@comment-1672596-20150917213334

Fantomas wrote: I admire your idea of "the truth," Weedle, but I've always found people's inherent obsession (in all fanbases, not just MGS) to believe that everything every character says is always the truth in fiction to be the detriment of writers everywhere.

The fall of Big Boss, as I already stated, already happened. In Snake Eater.

And I'll say this again (and you still haven't really elaborated), as far as I recall, nothing that Big Boss, or EVA, or Ocelot say in MGS4 is lost because of MGSV. Big Boss did not "lie" to Solid Snake.

And as I stated in another thread, the Medic from Ground Zeroes was not a "random" person. Big Boss explicitly refers to him as "the best man they had." It doesn't nullify Les Enfants Terribles, because that happens before, and it does the complete opposite for S3, it solidifies that that idea works.

I'm getting kinda sick of this argument because it's pretty clear your not even addressing the points that I'm raising. Yes, but the fact of the matter is, the medic (like it or not, that IS indeed his profession, and regardless of his skills, a medic does not undergo much combat routine and thus regardless of his skills, they'll go to waste since he doesn't see active combat to keep his skill levels to the sharpest level) would still not be to Big Boss's level of CQC due to his position. And as far as the S3 Plan, it's precisely BECAUSE it worked during MGSV that it would be pointless to do the S3 Plan. If something works, you don't need to do that experiment again. That's one of the problems with it. After all, if I did the S3 Plan during the 1980s, I see no reason to do it in 2009 precisely because it already worked before and thus there's no real need to do it again.

EVA basically said that Zero gave the order to have Big Boss put into a coma, and also said that Zero went into hiding after Sigint was killed in Shadow Moses Island during the Shadow Moses Incident in 2005, and commissioned the development of the AI system AFTER Big Boss's defeat in Zanzibar Land. Ocelot also moreorless said much of the same, and Big Boss in addition to the above even pretty much inferred that Zero's vegetative state was merely due to old age. So yes, they DID lie to him, and in a manner that was explicitly pointless.