Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-26523073-20150623001037/@comment-64.33.250.214-20151123052422

93.42.73.55 wrote: 64.33.250.214 wrote: SSBBfan666 wrote: Eh, I'll chalk it to John and Adam being close friends. Also Big Boss wanted nothing to do with the orginization (between Zero's lies, him being made the icon and the LET project/ his clones) he left and pursued his own interpretatios of The Boss's will (Peace Walker), in MGSV, he's busy building Outer Heaven while Venom and Diamond Dogs have the world stage. Ocelot says this in the ening conversation with Miller.

So John being in a Patriot HQ during this time would be odd (though he returns to FOXHOUND to draw attention from Outer Heaven as he hands over leadership to Venom as Diamond Dogs moved to there.) If there is a friendship between John and Adam, it isn't shown in the games. They exchange names and Ocelot helps the real Snake escape the hospital. That's all we see, and anything beyond that is merely speculation and fan theories.

I am confused as to how the Patriots, who monitor global activities, would be so distracted by Diamond Dogs that they wouldn't notice Outer Heaven's development. How John would be allowed to return to FOXHOUND while "Big Boss" and Diamond Dogs have the world stage. Once Diamond Dogs was disbanded, wouldn't the remaining Patriots keep tabs on Big Boss? You could argue that Ocelot and Eva fed them misinformation, but that'd only make the Patriots, who we're meant to believe are evil masterminds, look incompetent for trusting known double agents. If they're not using drone surveillance to track Big Boss, which we know Mother Base is technologically capable of producing, then we can assume the Patriots lost all sense of direction when Zero was removed from the picture.

Phantom Pain left a lot of unanswered questions. Such as the state of Adam and John's relationship, or where John spent his time for the next 10 years. Don't forget that Zero himself created Venom, so he (therefore Cipher/The Patriots/Sigint/The AI/Whatever) knows the body double thing. He knows DD aren't lead by the real Big Boss and he knows the real Big Boss is up to something. Zero himself isn't in charge anymore since Skull Face's little trick, but whoever succeceded him (Sigint I guess) knows everythang. That's an excellent point as well, and even if Zero hadn't informed Sigint and Para-Medic of the body double, they should have known something was up when Big Boss returned to FOXHOUND, while another was running activities across the globe. How they didn't notice Big Boss's involvement in Outer Heaven is still a mystery.