Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-86.46.22.35-20130403153709/@comment-1672596-20141123234019

Paranoid Donkey wrote: 64.33.250.214 wrote:

Even if we could make a confirmation there, it wouldn't mean much. Case in point: Akio voiced Solidus and Solid, whereas Hayter only voiced Solid. But that's precisely my point. If the two are voiced by the same person even in English, as well as Japanese, that'd establish an undeniable connection between Snake, Medic and Ishmael. Akio voiced Solidus and Solid because they were clones - and all I can do is guess why Hayter didn't voice Solidus as well (my guess is that he couldn't convincingly play both roles or something I dunno), so if Akio voices Ishmael, Medic and Snake, as we know for a fact that Kiefer Sutherland does, it raises more eyebrows than it lowers I think. I'm not saying it proves anything other than a connection being there.

Weedle McHairybug wrote:

Theultimaterebol wrote: Kojima doesn't need to state what is already known. Kojima stated it by putting the subtext, "a youth who curses his fate." the fine print for those words was, "LIQUID". I'd believe that if he hadn't stated that Kazuhira Miller and Master Miller were one and the same even when it should have been obvious from their build that they most likely were one and the same during TGS2009, or mention that Huey is "exactly who we think he is" during the same event, or say effectively the same thing regarding Major Ocelot or Naked Snake. Honestly, if he thought the audience was stupid enough to need reassurance that who we think they are is indeed the case, or in the case of Miller, flat out state they are the same, he most certainly would be as blatant regarding Eli and Liquid being one and the same. Kanji saying liquid man, 'a youth who curses his fate', 'NEVER BE GAME OVER', blonde hair, seemingly the right age. I dunno Weedle, I don't exactly think that NEEDS confirmation, it's pretty suspicious as it is. I mean, if anything I'll be annoyed if Eli ISN'T Liquid because they'd be wasting such a good story arc opportunity.

Besides, saying someone is "exactly who [you] think he is" is nothing but a Kojima cop out. I mean, confirming all the details this early before the game's release would be kinda anti-climactic. If Eli is Liquid, don't we all want to experience that awesome moment of confirmation in-game rather than through an announcement on the internet? Could just be me.

Except there's little mistake as to who Naked Snake and Huey could possibly be, not even a cop-out, as that generally implies they don't give any meaningful information and is too ambiguous. And besides, he spoiled Kazuhira Miller being the same as Master Miller from MG2 and MGS1 in TGS2009 well before the game's release, without even going into "exactly who [you] think he is" anyways, and Kaz being Master wasn't even hinted at until the second ending timeline.