Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-25168690-20160817194149/@comment-25168690-20160901002845

Black Chamber Bison wrote:

Samuspartan wrote:

To answer Black Bison:

first a little dumb question? how do you quote multiple times like you did? :P Put without spaces except for between div and class, in front of the what you're replying to. Then put < /div > without spaces again, at the end of the comment.

I understand what you mean with subpar gameplay, what I meant to tell Weedle is that when he was asked why he thinks the gameplay is subpar he responded by saying that he doesn't like that the maps are pretty empty, but that is actually an example of subpar level design not subpar gameplay, or am I mistaken? (not a sarcastic question) Say you play a Platform game and there's only one platform. That involves level design and effects gameplay. MGSV may have the sneaking mechanics down pat, but there isn't much way to utilize them outside of missions. There's a lack of gameplay in the open world which limits usefulness of game features. There's nowhere near the amount of engagement as games like GTA. The core gameplay could've easily been streamlined by removing the largely empty open world, and instead transported you from base A to B. Kojima wanted to compete for biggest map size with GTA. The result is gameplay interrupted by needless exploration.

and about the characters I think but once again this is my own personal and delusional opinion, I think Kojima had a much longer game planned, maybe he even planned a third entry in the game, Ground Zeroes being entry 1, phantom pain being entry 2, and "insertwhatevertitlehere" being part 3, or maybe not a third entry but more chapters in the game, because chapter 2 in TPP constantly mentions a "war against cipher" and Kaz repeatedly mentions that they are geting ready to engage Cipher and the XOF, yet said "war" never comes, we never know what happened to the XOF, we didn't have a proper "closure". the whole "the game is incomplete to give you a phantom pain feeling" is just a lazy excuse for spending 7 years and not being able to even make a complete storyline.

But like I said this is just my opinion A lot of us wish there was a 3rd part, but that wouldn't make up for the muddled storytelling in the first 2 chapters. The body double plot twist is unlikely the result of a last minute change forced by a rushed deadline. If that had carried over into a chapter 3 with a remake of Outer Heaven, we'd have to deal with Venom replacing Big Boss again.

If part 3 took place in New York and involved Big Boss and the Patriots, then maybe the story could've been salvaged. But at this point that's more or less fanfic based on a screen shot of an unfinished part of the game no one but Kojima has any real context for.