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98.221.96.139 wrote: Weedle McHairybug wrote: Mr. Grave wrote: Weedle McHairybug wrote: Actually, come to think of it, since EVA was somewhat acquainted with Raikov in MGS3 (at least in terms of being a fellow Groznyj Grad personnel member), I wonder how she'd react to meeting Raiden, since he bore an uncanny resemblance to Raikov in his human form? I don't think Raiden's resemblance to Raikov would be mentioned. Raikov played a minor role in the Metal Gear Solid franchise, contrary to the role of Big Boss. Besides, the "Post Big Shell" section of Raiden's wiki biography states that he was drinking heavily and getting into fights. So, I think that his appearance might look more weary and serious due to his alcohol addiction, the opposite of the androgynous look he had in Metal Gear Solid 2, probably making it hard for EVA to recognize him. I sure hope they do so. I am among them fans who highly disliked Raiden's girlish look, and I was glad Kojima gave him the chance to redeem it. Okay, fine. Was a bit of a non-serious suggestion anyways, wouldn't expect it anyways, or want it to happen anyways since it would give some negative implications about Raiden's potential health by that point (You know, how he might be riddled with STDs all because of Raikov's sexual activity with Volgin assuming Raikov is Raiden's father.). I know Kojima has a habit of making parent-child relationships be almost clones of each other (as evidenced with Big Boss and Solid Snake, Johnny Sasaki and..., well, Johnny, Huey and Otacon, not to mention Dr. Emmerich and Huey, possibly Cecile and Holly if Kojima for some reason decided to make Cecile Holly White's alluded to French mother, as they do to some extent look alike. At least Big Boss and Solid Snake's physical resemblances have a good excuse for being that way, and since Johnny's creation was namely an excuse to have a Johnny Sasaki in Snake Eater, that was understandable, though did they really need to make Huey and Otacon look like clones of each other?), but Raikov and Raiden being father and son would be a horrible decision, since Raikov, due to his homosexual activity with Volgin, is likely going to be infected with some really dangerous STDs (Heck, EVA already has Procitis from what is strongly implied to be Volgin post-Snake Eater), and if Kojima ends up making Raiden Raikov's son for whatever insane reason, that would mean Raiden's screwed up even further due to most likely being heavily infected with STDs and may have unknowingly infected Rose and little John with STDs as well. Honestly, Raiden's already suffered enough from both MGS2 (both in-universe and out) and MGS4: I really think making Raiden an unknowing STD carrier is even worse. Heck, his childhood in Africa was already a nightmare, and we already got the social commentary about what happens in Africa anyways, so adding in a potential AIDs metaphor regarding that is just overkill.

Well, not that it matters, not only is there a Raikov look-alike in TPP (you can thank the 2012 VGA trailer for that), but going by one of Hideo Kojima's tweets, his Japanese voice actor will have a main role in the game. Might be a coincidence, but I wouldn't wager a bet that it is one knowing how Kojima usually reuses voice actors for lookalike/similar-persona characters (He did it with Solid Snake, Solidus Snake, and Big Boss, he did it with Donald Anderson and Richard Ames, he did it with Kenneth Baker and James Johnson, he did it with Olga Gurlukovich and Meryl Silverburgh, he did it with Rose and The Boss, he did it with Otacon and Huey, I think he might have done it with the Johnnys, and he definitely did it with Raikov and Raiden). I can only hope Kojima is smart enough to not make Raikov Raiden's dad, but cynically-speaking, I suspect he will, knowing the recent trends he's done especially in Peace Walker.

Holly is NOT Cecile's daughter. Both of them are one-time characters who will not reappear in the series. Forget about them. And Raikov is not Raiden's father. Raikov doesn't even have a reason to be in Liberia. You're speculating "big time." Hey, as I said in there, I honestly don't WANT Raikov to be Raiden's pop (Heck, I even said when mentioning the possibility that I only said it because of cynicism). Nonetheless, Kojima has pulled some really weird punches in the series before, so, whether I want him to be his dad or not, I cannot deny the possibility. Heck, Sigint didn't even really need to be Donald Anderson, anyways, nor did they really need Zero to be the founder of the Patriots, yet here they were. Heck, did they really need to implement Johnny's grandpa in Snake Eater? Para-Medic being Dr. Clark was also not really necessary, either. Yeah, she did hint at LET in a Codec call, but did they REALLY need to make her Dr. Clark himself/herself, thus undergoing what is effectively narrative transgender surgery? Just make her one of the workers under Dr. Clark, one of the technicians. That would have settled the implication of her eventually being involved with LET, and yet not at the same time make her Dr. Clark herself. If he did all of that, there's no reason to deny the possibility of doing a similar sucker punch with that.

And I'm not saying that Cecile and Holly actually were related. Heck, we don't even know if they are or not. However, considering how Kojima pulled off the reveal of the Patriots that, with few exceptions, weren't even foreshadowed (Ocelot is pretty much the only one of the six founders to have actually been hinted since MGS3 to actually be a founder of the group. Para-Medic, while still hinted in a radio call to eventually become involved in the LET project and possibly the genome soldier project under the Patriots, definitely was NOT foreshadowed to be a founder AT ALL, and neither was EVA, for that matter. Big Boss, Zero, and Sigint weren't even implied to have had direct involvement with the Patriots short of BB's involvement in LET in MGS3 [Heck, the DCI had more hints going to him being the chief founder than Zero did, and that was in the post-credits call], though I'll give them credit in that they at least hinted at those three being involved among the Patriots in MPO [though Sigint was only in an optional call, it was still better than what EVA got].), whether I believe it or not (and I pretty much am a non-believer anyways) I see little reason to completely dismiss the possibility of Cecile and Holly being related, especially seeing how Kojima basically stated that Holly was of French descent on the maternal side. Heck, Kazuhira Miller was himself a one-time character who wouldn't not reappear in the series once upon a time (and no, MGS1 does not count, as that was Liquid posing as him. Until Peace Walker, his only true appearance was in MG2, meaning he was effectively a one-shot), so if Kojima for whatever reason decided to bring in Miller, whether I believe it or not, he most certainly can do the same and pidgeonhole a relationship between Holly and Cecile.

Even if I were speculating, at least I'm doing it on a forum and not on an actual article, so give me some credit.

Either way, I made a mistake even bringing up the whole thing, so we should get back to the original topic. If there is going to be a new Rising game, it better deal with the original concept of Metal Gear Solid: Rising, only tweaking details that were unveiled in MGRR that contradicted the original draft.