Thread:Bluerock/@comment-3184244-20180819030607/@comment-1504072-20180822161944

Ok, I'll break down my response to you points, because I think you misunderstand me:

Evilcivilian wrote: we're dealing with DNA, an identity that makes up one person's being copied from one individual, it's common sense, if you take an identity of someone to create a new lifeform then that same lifeform is an exact copycat holding the same genes as that one person which contains strong blood relations to that same individual's parents (Big Boss) as a sibling. Yes, taken purely on a genetic level, that person is a virtual duplicate of the original and is more similar to an identical twin (after ignoring the mitochondrial DNA from the egg donor). That is indeed fact, and I never disputed it.

Evilcivilian wrote: i bet you'd believe an infant that gets it's DNA used for cloning it becomes a parent right? NO. In a sense it is a parent, because the infant begot the clone. However, I wouldn't really refer to it as such because of other factors, including age of the DNA donor (infant) and legal considerations (a child can't adopt another child as a parent/guardian). The relationship they have would not be one of parent to child.

Evilcivilian wrote: "The Snake clones shouldn't be described as siblings to Big Boss, because that is not the personal relationship that the characters have to one another" oh really? Let me clarify. They shouldn't be described as siblings in the Wiki infobox, because this site reflects how the story treats these characters in terms of relationships to one another. The overwhelming majority of references to Big Boss and his clones is that of parent and offspring. Therefore, the infobox, as a very brief summary of the article's contents, should opt for the term "son" over "brother".

Evilcivilian wrote: Big Boss was never intimate towards any of the clones except for Solid Snake at the moment, but still questioned on how to address him as well as admit that he NEVER thought of Solid Snake as a son out his own... Big Boss's views are not the only ones to consider. Practically all other characters treat them as father and sons, including those closest to him e.g. EVA, Ocelot, Miller, etc. Regarding Big Boss himself, he does refer to his and Solid Snake's relationship as parent and offspring when he first reveals their connection (off-screen), and in MGS4, even though he claims to have never thought of Snake as his son, he still chooses to address him as such initially.

Evilcivilian wrote: especially the fact that i already said he didn't address Solidus Snake in an intimate way either he only referred to him as just a clone, the same would apply for everyone else, As mentioned above, Big Boss is not the only viewpoint through which personal relationship is defined.

Evilcivilian wrote: i don't know why you're running from facts here and yet you claim to be a fan of this series. Once again, I've never disputed facts, I'm well aware of the science behind reproductive cloning. It has nothing to do with being a fan, but about presenting the characters in a way that is reflectivw of the story.

Final Note: Let me reiterate that what you are arguing for is what term should be used in the infobox. Infoboxes are designed to present a summary of the topic of the page in a quickly readable format. All the facts regarding the hard science of reproductive cloning are already present in each article. Just because the infobox doesn't go into detail regarding the scientific technicalities, doesn't mean its inaccurate, or that the information isn't readily available for the reader to learn in the main body of the article.

Here's my propostion for the infobox terms:
 * Big Boss is ("father") to each clone (indicates non-traditional father);
 * The clones are (brother) to one another (no change);
 * The clones are just that, (clone), to Big Boss (obviously, there should be no issue with this).