Thread:Doulomb/@comment-34388024-20180118210136/@comment-1672596-20180118223610

KROWE90 wrote: Weedle McHairybug wrote:

KROWE90 wrote:

Weedle McHairybug wrote:

KROWE90 wrote:

Weedle McHairybug wrote: Actually, KROWE90, Portable Ops IS canon, considering that MGS4 specifically included its events in the various flashback scenes and even an in-game timeline featured Portable Ops in there. If it truly weren't canon, it wouldn't be acknowledged at all, not even in the flashbacks. Think how Snake's Revenge is not acknowledged at all.

Now, that being said, Rising's canonicity IS debatable, and we don't even need Kojima's contradictory word to know that Survive ain't canon. Portable Ops WAS canon until Peace Walker came out. It isn't anymore. MGSV sealed the deal completely. And using flashbacks and Snake's Revenge as an excuse doesn't work. Snake infiltrating Galuade was mentioned in a MGS4 gun description. Yet, Ghost Babel is obviously not canon.

Also, the Database is obviously outdated so it's not reliable anymore. Again, Portable Ops WAS canon until Peace Walker came out. It isn't anymore. Get over it. Your life won't end just because your beloved game isn't canon. And stop joining conversations you weren't involved in.

Anyway, thanks for your time, Bluerock. I'm not concerned for whether my life will end, actually. I'm just stating that Portable Ops is canon. And believe me, he would have redone some scenes in MGS4 to specifically erase any trace of its existence if he wanted it non-canon, like George Lucas did with the original trilogy, and even order massive recalls of all old games. And just as an FYI, he never denounced it as non-canon despite twice having the opportunity to give a firm answer (and since he made it clear under no uncertain terms he hated the NES version of Metal Gear, he most certainly is capable of giving a very explicit "no" in regards to Portable Ops' canonicity). Heck, even the official site's timeline back when it was still up as late as 2013 had Portable Ops explicitly listed as a canonical entry event alongside the MSX2 games.

And there's a massive difference between the gun descriptions in MGS4 and actual flashbacks scenes that are directly tied to the story. Besides, by your logic, Solid Snake encountering Liquid Ocelot during MGS2 is no longer canon simply because Snake during the mission briefing for Act 1 had him acting all unfamiliar with Liquid Ocelot.

Yawn. Your incessant rambling continues to bore me as does your incessant obsession over a scene which didn't contradict MGS2. Get a life and go away. No, it actually did contradict. If it truly lined up with MGS2, Snake would not have said "I watched [Liquid] die...". Instead, he would have said "yeah, I remember him: He took over RAY during the Tanker Incident via Ocelot, and I lost track of him after the Big Shell Incident." That's how you keep continuity with MGS2.

And either way, my voting for Donald Trump has nothing to do with my edits on this wiki (heck, he wasn't even my first choice for the 2016 President, it was in fact Ben Carson). Either way, at least I actually use my username consistently instead of constantly adopting new ones on the fly.

You're a far-right disgusting bigoted nutjob who won't go away. You'd be perfect on Fox News, Brietbart, and Alex Jones. At least you didn't defend the child molester Roy Moore.

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But don't worry, Oprah won't be President. I pray a competent Democrat wins in 2020. And for the 100th time, Snake still hadn't gotten over "Liquid's" survival. Get over it and move on. As for my "fly" accounts, Bluerock can ban me whenever he wants. So I'm conservative. Big whoop. I'm also serious about my Catholicism, and the Catholic doctrine specifically denounces abortion. God himself denounced it as well (and he denounced homosexuality as well. It's not even up to me, it's up to Him). It's not "bigoted". What IS bigoted, however, is claiming that I'm a bigot simply because I'm conservative. And as far as my saying that he should make America great again, what sold me was him making Mike Pence his VP, and that guy has a good pro-life track record.

As far as a competent Democrat, I could suggest Randall Terry, as he's a registered Democrat and actually IS pro-Life, a rarity, and he's definitely competent as well.

As far as Snake not getting over it, the ending of MGS2 suggests that he DID get over it, considering he calmly states with certainty that Liquid's not going to go very far in his quest since the Patriots most likely supplied Ocelot with a dummy location to begin with. If he truly didn't get over it, he'd say the above, and say in an uncertain tone "assuming that Liquid is in fact possessing Ocelot, anyway" and even still show signs of being disturbed about him returning.