Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5085906-20130627191357/@comment-177.249.101.8-20140726191046

Misterbunnsy wrote: The thing about Kiefer voicing Snake was that it was never explicitly stated he was voicing "Big Boss", it was always just "Snake". This was seized (by many others besides PythonSelkan) to mean that he could be a different Snake, and not Big Boss. While it was an interesting idea (as it would be quite crafty to hide the protagonist's true identity that way), the body double theory was pursued to a ridiculous extent because of this.

As for this analysis, I've just started watching it. Avi Arad's comments on the E3 trailer are being used to support their theory, simply because he says "Although cleverly disguising the story"...

They accept this as proof that they're correct. They don't seem to understand how evidence and facts work. You offer evidence in order to prove that your theory is fact; that beyond reasonable doubt, it is correct. An ambiguous phrase such as "cleverly disguising the story" confirms jack shit. There's no proof in that phrase.

They are also using the fact that the voice for CP at Camp Omega in Ground Zeroes is the same as the voice for CP at Diamond Dogs Mother Base in The Phantom Pain indicates we're playing as the enemy. Since Kojima is a 'perfectionist', he would not reuse the same voice. But who even says this voice will be in the final build?

Not only that, but somehow we're playing as the enemy because of this, and that also means that the Ground Zeroes mission was a simulation we experienced as the enemy. What in the actual fuck? Their new hard-on theory is this simulation thing. It's getting seriously ridiculous.

The worst thing about all this is they have some good points about the inconsistencies that could suggest Big Boss using a body double. And if they're right, and it's proven true, they'll go crazy about how all their ridiculous assumptions were always correct (even if they're not all correct in the end) and that we were the fools for questioning this theory so much. And then hubris will mean they think they're the ultimate analysts to provide crazy theories for future games. Thats what I am affraid of, if just one of their theories turns out to be true, the will begin saying that they were always right and shit.

But I still think they go to far fetched the whole gray ashes = gray + Fox seemed really stupid to me, or the whole debris being a fox ear is just too much.

Also I facepalmed when they wher OMG Big Boss has unlimited sprint, Gray Fox confiirmed. that was just lame, they tend to confuse gameplay mechanichs with actual storyline, next they are gonna say that Venom Snake can actually time travel beacuse each time he is killed he goes back in time a few minutes to the last check point