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Welcome back ladies and gentlemen, to another anyalysis of PhythonSelkan's 2015 E3 Trailer Analysis, will there be more pointless fluffing? More idiotic ideas? And what about Godzilla? Let's check and see shall we?

After a snazzy intro (gotta hand it to them, they can edit videos well), we're given a brief intro about the analysis, which for once they claim it wont fully focus Gray Fox is Big Boss by saying they're looking at different perspectives and all, but all in all, it will tie into said theory regardless.

The analysis starts with the beginning of the trailer and about Skullface monologue which they note is similar to the one of the cassette's found in Ground Zeroes, they follow up on the bloodied Diamond Dogs logo and how the dead men may well be DD soldies, linking it back to Big Boss killing DD soldiers at the end of the 2014 E3 trailer.

This is then followed up on about Skullface talking about changes and how Big Boss goes from his Ground Zeroes appearance to his Phantom Pain appearance, the shrapnel "horn" increasing in size.

We go on on the next scene at the bathroom mirror, they noticed the Fox log on a box/case in the upper left of the screen. They don't comment on it other then showing it, personally I wouldn't pay too much attention to it yet, Kojima's known for stuffing the Fox Logo in various places.

Focus then comes on the pills by the mirror, particularly the blue/white capsules and identifies them as Ziprasodine, a pill used for treating schizoprhenia as well as being used off lable for depression, anxiety, bi-polar PTSD, etc. While this is a possibility....PhythonSelkan obviously forget that there are various medicine using a blue and white capsule such as Oxazepam, Geodon, Calcium Acetate and even morphine, amongst various others. So while it is a possiblity, it is absolutely not a certainty.

PhythonSelkan obviously lays the link to Gray Fox and how Natasha implied that Gray Fox had PTSD, mentioned in In the Darkness of Shadow Moses: The Unofficial Truth. Again, because a multitude of medication uses blue/white capsules, this is really grasping at straws. He further "solidifies" it with a part of the song Nuclear's lyrics "The abandoned child", again, strawgrasping.

Finally we move on to the actual focus of the scene, the cassette type and the text written on it "From the Man Who Sold the World", the line is identified as a title from a David Bowie album released in 1970, PythonSelkan thinks it might be referring to Zero. It's a possibility, but there isn't, IMO, enough context to really confirm or deny it.

We move on, we see the medics work on Big Boss, the helicopter flyby scene comes up and PhythonSelkan added "Afghanistan?" on the screen...well, yeah, it most likely is. The second Heli flyby comes up, this time with the text "Africa... or Vietnam?" Well it's Africa, the second arc, so to speak, of the game as we know by now. Vietnam isn't really a possibility, it is too far away from Motherbase, which we now know, lies close to Africa. Why PythonSelkan thinks of Vietnam? Well because in Metal Gear 2, Gray Fox claims to have lived in Vietnam after the Vietnam war where Big Boss rescued him, this was further solidified by the Metal Gear Solid: Official Mission Handbook. But as we know, Portable ops, already contradicts it, further more, Ground Zeroes contradicts it even further as Big Boss was in coma during that time, the Vietnam war ended in 1975, right around when Big Boss falls in coma.

PythonSelkan pauses at the Foxlogo (actually, he played it a bit further, then rewinded, played it and then paused it), the text A "FOX" without a Name... appears on the screen. He goes on about that right after we've seen Big Boss and Kaz from the perspective of the third, mysterious, character (whom they suspect is Gray Fox...which is a load of bullcrap as Gray Fox was nowhere to be seen during Ground Zeroes, so why on earth would he lay next to Big Boss and Kaz?), the Fox Logo is shown without Kojima Productions under it nor the FOX title of the FOX unit like on Big Boss's shoulder. He goes again about A "FOX" without a Name and questions if it is Coincidence or a clever hint from Kojima, most likely suggesting about Gray Fox.

Of course, it is entirely possible that Kojima just used the Fox logo on it's own considering the recent debacle between Konami and Kojima and how Kojima's name was basically removed from a lot of things on Phantom Pain, this may well be no exception and it may well be that Kojima opted to use the nameless Fox logo rather then his standard logo.

We finally move on again, and as a man is heard speaking in the background, they suspect it might be Jay Tavare as Code Talker, this is possible as the voice starts to come up when we see Big Boss with Code Talker, though I'd argue that...he doesn't really sound as old as he appears.

He goes on about Kaz's eyes and how some think that Kaz is blind, they question this as if he was, how could he have served as a Survival Instructor and as a Drill Sergeant after 1984 as a bland person. I kinda got to agree with them on that note, furthermore everytime we see Kaz, he doesn't act blind, even during the reveal of his eyes he doesn't act blind. PythonSelkan also notes that Code Talker has similar looking eyes as Kaz.

We continue to the point where we see Big Boss sparring, they note the poster in the background with Big Boss face and the text Big Boss is Watching You. They note the lack of third strap and scar, not sure what they're trying to proof here, the poster also appears to lack the shrapnel, which they completely ignore. It's more likely that it is just a poster using Big Boss his Ground Zeroes face, it's also a vague shadowy styled poster, so details are harder to tell aside from the general appearance...so it really doesn't say much.

He goes on that the voice we're hearing is possibly Zero, this is quite reasonable, the voice is clearly Brittish and it uses dialogue that mentions the Boss and her vision.

And more radical stuff, PythonSelkan focuses on the bit of dialoge about "Even our faces will be irrelevant" whilst the camera zooms in on Big Boss, he editted a shot of Ishmael, no doubt implying that the two are the same.

And we get a SPOILER ALERT! at 11:37 in about a "critical detail" which was shared by someone who preview MGSV. I'll bet you it's the Brazil guy and the face editor thing he mentioned.

And so it is, big surprise. However we have heard from other sources that we play as Big Boss and that the facial editor may well be tied to the multiplayer aspect of the game (the player base infiltration/defense, not MGO) which makes sense. We have no reason to think we're not playing as Big boss due to a facial customization because.....well that defeats the whole purpose of a body double doesn't it? A body double is supposed to look exactly like the person he/she is doubling as, looking completely different would naturally ruin that whole idea. Furthermore, as said again and again, we're witnissing Big Boss change, his hunt for revenge, a moment of his life that is very crucial to his very being...it would be redundant to play that out as someone else.

We move on from idiocy and go back to the trailer to the moment where we see something similar to an AI pod and the suspection is that it might be The Boss AI. It's possible, though it might be a new AI pod entirely.

And we come to Paz, I'll say beforehand here that...this was the first WTF moment I had with the E3 trailer (only followed by more), is that really Paz? And if so, how did she survive being blown up? Too many questions, too little answers.

PythonSelkan of course, goes back to their theory that Ground Zeroes was some kind of Simulation/Mind Control, further by the lyrics "Everything's a lie"

The following scene comes with Big Boss pulling the earbud out of the man's throat, PythonSelkan notes that the man's eyes are similar to Kaz, which is true, others have noted this too. They also link the earbud back to how Chico's earbuds were plugged into his chest. Personally said...I think Skullface has a weird thing for plugging earbuds into places where they don't belong.

Moving on to the FemSkulls, he notces that they change their looks to a muscle/skeletal appearance as they appear, which is of course very similar to how Quiet appears when she becomes visible. Granted I would say Quiet's appearance is more....cleaner, the FemSkulls muscle appearance is far more...gory. they of course question if Quiet was part of the same experimental project. Personally I think Quiet was more so the test subject they copied it from, this being due to her cleaner look when changed opposed to the FemSkulls more gory look.

He follows up on that the suits worn by the FemSkulls look similar to those worn by the Beauty & Beast Corps, particularly the barcode. Also for some odd reason, he links the eyething on the Femskulls with the red dot from Gray Fox and lists them off as Cyborg Traits, a bit silly but oh well. Focus is also brought to the E2 on their foreheads and the text below it which says Experimental Unit and Physical Abilities as well as more unreadable text.

Next up, the zombie scene, which was another WTF moment from me. Her of course, PythonSelkan lays the link back to Gray Fox, stating that Kojima wanted Gray Fox to combat nanomachines powered zombies but Platinum Games seemed to be ignoring him, this goes back to the supposed concept of Metal Gear Rising 2 supposed to star Gray Fox rather then Raiden. While the zombies seem to make appear here, this doesn't mean we're playing Gray Fox, that's again, grasping straws.

We pause at a scene where apparently Big Boss is held upside down by a mechanical arm, this scene was rather brief but it does raise questions. Also, personally said...the whole zombie part creeps me out, cyborg zombies are creepy, and just how the Skulls move before their eyes glow up and they go for the chase....yeah, not gonna like meeting them.

We go to the chase scene with the jeep being chased by shards, PythonSelkan questions it to be hallucination or some kind of boss battle. I personally think the latter, we're in Afghanistan and we know the Skulls will chase us after rescuing Kaz. What is odd though is that the brothers decide to link these shards to Godzilla of all things and how in Episode 6 of Kojima Station, Kojima and Yoji showcasing as Ray figure, only to replace it with a Godzilla figure. This followed up by Kojima tweeting about Godzilla stuff and thus PythonSelkan suspects the chase scene might be hinting at a Godzilla inspired creature/mech. I think it is kinda doubtful...ultimately, Kojima's Japanese and the Japanese fricking love Godzilla, he might take inspirations from it but I highly doubt he'd put something like that into the game. They further try to imply it as Yoji's credit is shown right after said scene, Yoji of course being the designer of most characters and Metal Gears.

We next see Soldiers chopped up by a Heli's rotor blades, judging the soldier's appearance and location, this scene most likely takes place in the Hospital Escape level. We follow up to the scene with the burning person, PythonSelkan pauses a moment to show the brief glimps of Big Boss wearing a gasmask, he pauses again when the burning person drops down to focus on a possible iDroid laying on the ground next to him.

Next up, the heli scene where we see Big Boss and Quiet inside the heli that seems to be out of control. PythonSelkan notes the slouched pilot, pointing out that the fellow's possibly dead. He then pauses when we look outside the window to show yet another Skull Cyborg that looks different from the Skulls we've seen before, this one we can see the mouth and there's some tech covering his eyes. The cyborg also looks...big.

Big Boss and Skullface riding the jeep, here they pause to show what looks like burnt corpses along the road. Next up Eli standing up and a boar head before him, which is a possible Lord of the Flies reference, frankly said..Eli's whole appearance is a reference to it. Another pause is made when we see the burning Volgin in the Hospital. Though where as PythonSelkan suspects it, we can already safely say that this is indeed Volgin burning and that it is indeed in the Hospital.

Next he shows the shot of Volgin and young Mantis and suspects Volgin is a hallucination created by Mantis. He also sooms in on the Russian text on Mantis his coat which apparently translates to "Leningrad University of Parapsychology".

He pauses on the moment where we here "Words to control the subconscious" which they of course link to their theory how Venom Snake is manipulated into believing he's the real Big Boss.

When we see Eli jumping into the apparant Rex Prototype from Skullface's base, they show some footage of Liquid jumping into Metal Gear Rex, by now it's pretty much confirmed that Eli is indeed Liquid.

Now we get into something interesting. They say that if you listen carefully when the MGSV logo appears, that apart from the Siren's sound, a morse code can be heard which stops right when the logo is gone. I honestly cannot hear it, nor do they comment further on it. Instead following up by how Big Boss in the bloodied hall is similar to the Gray Fox's corridor massacre in MGS1...which yeah, sure I can see that, but that doesn't say much.

He pauses at the scene where the soldiers stare up at the mech and how Skullface appears out of nowhere behind Big Boss and questions on whether only Big Boss can see him and if it is a hallucination...well it is possible I guess? I mean yes Skullface clearly was not there and then suddenly he was, it might just be Big boss reflecting on something though.

And then another WTF moment, twin Eli's, whom many think the other is Solid though others dispute that. Apparently PythonSelkan does too. He points out that the two never met, which is true, and unless their memories are erased or the plot of MGS1 is retconned, the Twin next to Eli cannot be Snake. Rather, they think this Twin is a young Decoy Octopus, using the same techniques he used to look like the Darpa Chief, to look like eli. He also claims it might by young Mantis, using his psychic powers to impersonate as Eli's twin. In all honesty, the latter theory sounds more plausible then the first.

Well we've hit the 40 minute mark, trailer has ended and so has the analysis, but it seems there's 12 minutes more to go...

Apparently it's theory time. He goes back to note that Skullface might only be in Big Boss mind (something I doubt) along with their mention of the medication (which, as I said, cannot be certain), that Big Boss might by suffering from schizoprhenia, also noting a symptom of having poor expression of emotions which Big Boss seems to be lacking. Uhm...what? We've seen Big Boss display a multitude of emotions, so that's bullcrap.

He further goes to comment how Ishmael and Skullface could be the two "Phantoms" born from "FOX"

I will go to note here, they're using the same scenes over and over again here, which is kinda bothersome and boring.

He further goes on, using the Norman Osborn/Green Goblin and Fight Club examples, that Skullface is possibly persuading Big Boss to preform atrocities such as killing innocent people. and that FOX vs XOF is Big Boss batling his own reflection.

And thus, if Skullface is Big Boss, then who are they talking about? Why it's Gray Fox of course, because no PythonSelkan theory goes without trying to claim Big Boss is Gray Fox. (They didn't say it yet, but they're heavily implying it.)

They then go on how Big Boss knew Russian and then forgot it, this was already explained, the shrapnell in his head caused brain damage, causing him for forget things.

Of course, more implications follow how they believe that Big Boss is Gray Fox, I'm not going to bother to point it all out, but it's pretty much the same deal they spoke of before.

And thus ends my analysis on their analysis....which ultimately ended up once again BIG BOSS IS REALLY GRAY FOX GUYS!!!!