Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-98.234.99.168-20150703054955/@comment-3986699-20150718111611

93.46.48.22 wrote: So Big Boss eventually realizes that Les Enfants Terribles is plural, Liquid has a twin and there is another perfect clone of BB himself. He meets Liquid. ONLY LIQUID. He will be asking: "Hey kiddo, where the hell are your Burothahz?" and Liquid will answeri: "Dunno and you are not gonna meet'em cuz some fans said Kojima shouldn't show them. Dear Daddy all you'll be seeing it's me lel"

I can clearly see that the first 'Eli', the one that apparently is dreaming or  hallucinating, has blue eyes just like Solid while the second one, "the hallucination" has green eyes. If you can't see it...well that's your problem. And having Liquid imagining his twin as his perfect copy just with different eye color doesn't make sense at all.

PythonSelkanHD my ass. I meant to say that Solid could had his memory erased ONCE, just before Operatrion Intrude N313. Basically he got his childhood erased, just that. Than he goes through every MG normally, remembering everything from the original MG through MGS4.

Kojima himself said there will be inconsistencies so why the hell Solid, Liquid and Solidus shouldn't be in TPP? All of them are born in 1984 and probably doing awesome shit I want to behold. Apparently Liquid is driving Metal Gears, kicking ass being an hell of a child soldier, while Solid is just beating his snake like a lameass bitch so he's not worth to be shown in Kojima last Metal Gear Solid. Bullshit, just bullshit. Both Solid and Solidus in 1984 are doing awesome shit and that's what Kojima will show us in TPP imo. He is not just throwing a bunch of character just because. I believe in HIDEO. Again this would be THE Metal Gear Solid, his masterpiece, and Baby Solid is entitled to take part of it. Not because I say so, not because other fans say so, but because it's fucking Solid Snake. Sassy Liquid is there, Badass Solid will be there as well.

It's kinda hard for Big Boss to not know the name of the project since finding out about it was what caused him to ditch Zero and the Patriots in the first place, this isn't something he's just now learning about, it's something he's already known for twelve years.

And your point? Both of them being dressed the same and having perfect copies of the others outfit as well as having the same facial scars in the same places doesn't make any sense at all. And no, their eye color is not clearly shown, you're only seeing it because it's what you want to see, not because that's actually waht you're seeing.

Like Weedle said, MGS4 has Snake referring to a toy he had during his childhood, long before Outer Heaven. And if he got his memory wiped, how would he have remembered that Big Boss was the one who trained him in CQC? Or his time in the Green Berets before being recruited into FOXHOUND? Or his FOXHOUND training in general?

And again, just like I told the other guy, Kojima never said that there will be inconsistencies, he said there might be inconsistencies, two entirely different statements that have two entirely different meanings, the first is a statement of fact, the second is a statement of possibility and it being possible that there are inconsistencies and saying there might be doesn't mean there's going to be any.

"All of them were born in 1984." shows how much (or rather little) you know of the series, they were born in 1972.

Even better question, why should they be in TPP? Especially Solidus since his child soldier kidnapping and brainwashing doesn't happen until the Liberian civil war.

And in order for it to be a masterpiece, he needs to avoid bad story telling by not putting in characters just for the sake of having them there.