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64.33.250.214 wrote: I was just noting a common point of origin when I added it in. I wasn't completely sure even back then whether Kojima intentionally used the Bible back then.

Regarding Solidus, he was already alluded to in the Meryl Lives ending of Metal Gear Solid by Ocelot. Point taken regarding Olga being the Cyborg Ninja, although the script did heavily imply that was the case in the scene where Raiden first encountered her. As far as an article, I'll try to find an article where Kojima stated this, but it may take a while.

Sephiroth at least actually WAS named after a concept from the Bible, specifically the singular version of the Seraphim. And they actually have a heavy dose of connections between him and Jenovah that were very similar to Jesus Christ, including being Jenovah's "son" yet one and the same with her.

EDIT: I can't answer when exactly Kojima mentioned this, but I can state that it may have been in Electronic Gaming Monthly. When asked, he said about The Boss's son "He's in Snake Eater" and reportedly did Ocelot's similar hand gun pose. I don't believe you're wrong for adding in those entires, but I think you are mistaken for believing that they are purely coincidental, and not intentional references. As you yourself stated, the allusions of Adam and Eve between Adamska and Eva are quite clear ones. There are other examples.

In MGS2, Vamp's backstory explains that he was pierced by a crucifix in a church, and buried for several days. Similarly, Christ was nailed to a cross, died, and resurrected several days later. Vamp's ability to walk on water and heal from grievous wounds are also allusions to Christ, as his appearance of having semi-long hair and facial hair. The act of blood-drinking may be somewhat referential of the Eucharist, where Christians symbolically engage in drinking the blood of Christ. Vampires are commonly associated with Christianity, especially Vlad Dracula who was a Christian. Official artwork of Vamp shows him in a pose with arms outstretched, one foot atop of another, similar to how Christ is displayed on the cross. This is also the case with Psycho Mantis.

MGSV shows Big Boss becoming a demon. You can see in the e3 2014 trailer a scene where Boss is colored red with blood, with smoke and a cross in the background. While both Western and Eastern cultures depict demons as being red with horns, it is largely Christian cultures that depict red demons, flames, and crucifix together.

These are all just allusions, and I can't tell you if Kojima ever personally confirmed that these were intentional references. There are numerous things Kojima has probably never bothered to explain in-depth. Him not revealing or openly spoiling these allusions does not negate the possibility that they were intentional. Stanley Kubrick, one of Kojima's known inspirations, was notorious for discussing his work, but he often kept Easter Eggs and behind the scenes details a secret.

You're asking for some solid proof of confirmation, in order for you to accept that Kojima intended these things. Yet you yourself are unable of prove the things you believe he said. I'm not calling you a liar, but memories can play tricks. If you don't have links to share, why should we take the word of an anonymous stranger? I have links to back up pretty much everything I've stated.

Solidus was teased at the end of MGS1, but did Kojima ever state before the game's release if and who he was in the game? Was the script implying Olga was the Cyborg Ninja leaked and confirmed by Kojima himself? The point I'm trying to make is that, while Kojima has spoiled things in the past, he hasn't spoiled everything. Kojima hasn't outright admitted, to my knowledge, that the masked child is Psycho Mantis, or that Eli is Liquid. There's overwhelming evidence that they are, and many believe them to be.

Sephiroth was named after a concept, but not a man named Sephiroth. Which is totally different from Solid Snake being named David, being one of eight offspring, battling giants (see Metal Gear and Genola) and an enemy named Goliath, as well as potentially having a brother named Eli. Which is literally in the story of David. Jenova and Jehovah are related in name, but otherwise share little in common. Safer-Sephiroth is a good example of an almost faithful depiction of Judeo-Christian lore, however still contains some discrepancies. Seraphim are said to keep their faces hidden with wings. Sephiroth is also not named Seraphim-Sephiroth, unlike Solid being named David or Liquid presumably being named Eli. Kojima isn't Stanley Kubrick, though. And I really should point out that the amount of detail he gives in Director's Commentaries suggests he's not the type to simply hide easter eggs, even if Kubrick IS his inspiration. Just look at Muni Shinobu's MGS3 site and the Kojima Commentaries uploaded there. There's an extensive amount of detail there, and it's barely even covered half of what Kojima had to say (roughly 53%). Based on what you said about Kubrick, this is far more than what Kubrick himself would have done.

And I'll try to ask around for the specific source where Kojima confirmed Ocelot's lineage. I think I know of at least one person on GameFAQs that might help.

As far as Solidus, yes, Kojima had indeed confirmed that Solidus was intended to be used in the sequel. Aside from his revealing this on Twitter, when explaining the names of the various "Snakes" in Les Enfants Terribles, the Grand Game Plan and Document of Metal Gear Solid 2 (which WERE leaked by Kojima) made this pretty clear. Same goes for Olga, the script being included in "Document." And like I said, those were all BEFORE Metal Gear Solid 2, which basically was received very negatively precisely because of his infamous plot twist regarding who the player character was.

And actually, Sephiroth WAS in fact named Seraphim-Sephrioth, though when transliterated from Japanese to English, it was mis-done as "Safer-Sephiroth."

And my reason for my doubts for Eli being Liquid, besides what I've already covered regarding Kojima revealing it (like he did with Ocelot, Naked Snake, Kazuhira Miller, and Huey; and Naked Snake in particular was spoiled to be Big Boss and the founder of FOXHOUND in the leaked voice casting document, well before the game's release), is due to his history: Liquid Snake was a former SAS member and one of the youngest to ever enter the service. He also would have been educated and trained in Britain. These were all made pretty clear in Metal Gear Solid and its supplementary materials. Based on the trailers for MGSV, Eli would have most likely been living in Africa at the time he met Big Boss, so it is extremely unlikely Eli is Liquid for that reason alone. Has it ever occurred to you that Kojima may have just used the name as a smokescreen, have us think that we'd see Liquid, but then pull a bait-and-switch?