Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-4913740-20150907193503/@comment-4913740-20150909033517

RinneSharingan wrote: Misterbunnsy wrote: So for those who have finished the game, read on and prepare to discuss. If you're not ready for spoilers, I'd click away now.

So Venom Snake is a body double and the one that dies at Outer Heaven. This body double is how Big Boss was able to give orders to Solid Snake while running his nation at the same time. I'm unclear as to whether Boss wanted Solid to succeed and kill Venom, or if the story is still true to the original plot and BB wanted his clone taken care of. Either way, I think that the body double twist worked well in the end - only Kojima could make it work. I don't think it devalued anything about BB or the rest of the story; Boss' legend existed before Diamond Dogs and V. Snake's efforts added to it, and the body double switcheroo makes it even more interesting.

What intrigued me also was how Miller turned away from BB, deciding to support Venom Snake and try to turn him against Big Boss. Ocelot's line to him implied to me that he was ultimately the one who killed him before Shadow Moses.

Kojima claimed this game would have inconsistencies but I feel like it really fit well in the end. Thoughts?

Also, I'm super bummed that I've lost Quiet permanently. I hope there's some secret that can get her back, because I had unlocked practically everything for her. First things first, beat Quiet's death mission with the butterfly emblem to keep her (don't know what that means, I'm just repeating what I've heard). Now on to the plot:

It feels to me more like Big Boss and Venom Snake planned a two-pronged attack: Venom Snake set up Outer Heaven while Big Boss used Zero's absence to return to FOXHOUND. I think Solid Snake's mission truly was to find false information and then everything spiralled out of control when he was revealed to be just as good as his father. I mean, why would Big Boss send Venom Snake a tape CLEARLY titled Operation Intrude N313 (and YES, IT IS N313, I DOUBLE- AND TRIPLE-CHECKED), why would he send one of his best agents to assassinate "himself" if his entire plot was to give the world an ulcer. Big Boss knew that if Solid Snake survived his secret would be busted, it just feels too... wrong. Unfortunately for the Quiet thing, I had already done the mission so I can't use the butterfly emblem trick. That's why I'm hoping there's a way to get her back after the mission is done. It doesn't even have to be explained away really in my opinion. Since it's now just an open-world game, where I'm free to do whatever, I should be able to have her back.