Thread:Weedle McHairybug/@comment-1191892-20200203180054/@comment-1672596-20200203195838

Evil Tim wrote: 1. Naw, that's coupled to the statement that it's only called a Metal Gear to make it sell better, which is also a criticism of MGR from the purist fans. Gekkos don't have anything like that associated with them.

2. Like I said, a lot of people read that line as being dismissive of Portable Ops, particularly since it's the only acknowledgement of anything from Portable Ops in the entire game. I'd accept, though, that it's a stretch. 1. Actually, Gekko got marketed as a new Metal Gear as early as Super Smash Bros., and there have been plenty of criticisms of how Metal Gear Solid 4 didn't feel like a Metal Gear game (especially when the point of it didn't even involve trying to stop World War III from happening).

2. I'm not sure about that being the only acknowledgement. Coldman even getting Granin's blueprints at all does hint at Portable Ops happening (he certainly couldn't have gotten it from the other CIA members under normal circumstances since, well, aside from his making clear he was essentially persona non grata from the organization and even made "Station Chief of Central America" to get him out of the way and subtly firing him from his director position for what was heavily implied to be his handling of Operation Snake Eater, or rather, his refusal to keep quiet due to sheer pride at the accomplishment, Huey's comment about his strapping a live nuke to Peace Walker as a way to get a "leg up" on negotiations with the CIA implied that the higher ups were not willing to listen to him at all otherwise, and the only way he MIGHT have gotten those blueprints is if someone in the CIA filed them to him during the confusion caused by Ocelot assassinating his replacement in the ending of Portable Ops, especially considering Ocelot explicitly noted that seventh floor of Langley was going to have a major shakeup.). Besides, there are plenty of times where the MSX2 games were barely even acknowledged in Metal Gear Solid as well, and in fact, the latter game even conflicts with it as well (I know when I saw the ending for MG2, I got the impression that Snake was outright cured of his PTSD due to his time in Zanzibar Land, NOT suffering even further from it, and heck, Holly and Roy's reactions didn't come across as concerned for Snake, more like angered at standing her up and also thinking that was typical of Snake to do.), and even came close to being decanonized outright based on that pre-release timeline for Peace Walker, yet I definitely don't recall Kojima doing that either.