Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-209.220.66.20-20140131165820/@comment-1672596-20140204202546

Bluerock wrote: Weedle McHairybug wrote: Jim Logan wrote: Well besides having Boss meat Campbell, and Gray Fox, and showing how Boss got the money for MSF, no nothing story-wise happened. What about Zero founding the Patriots, or revealing The Boss was set up? MGS3 indicated that the CIA Director was the founder of the Patriots, and that the US was forced to sacrifice her due to very bad planning regarding a mission. Last I checked, those were story developments revealed in MPO. Zero founding the Patriots was only confirmed in MGS4. The Boss being "set up" was never actually confirmed at all. MGS3 only implied that the U.S. Philosophers became the Patriots, rather than being replaced by an almost identical organization (which was indeed just a change in name, ultimately). MPO only made hints towards these things but provided little answers, which is why one could skip the game and not miss any major developments in the overall saga. Big Boss's character development and mercenary beginnings are retold (more effectively) in Peace Walker.

Anyway its just my opinion. I actually liked MPO's story, but it just doesn't hold up to the other Solid games. Maybe, but MGS3 definitely pointed more towards being forced to have The Boss killed due to her mission being poorly planned than an intentional attempt at screwing her over (which, MPO or not, EVA stating in MGS4 that The Boss was set up to die by the CIA for fear of her charisma reeks of her being set up, especially when it directly contradicted with her debriefing), not to mention MGS3 strongly implied that it was the DCI who founded the Patriots as a revived Philosophers Branch, not Zero (heck, the only two similarities between MGS4's account and MGS3's account is that Ocelot was involved in the founding both times).

@SoulReaper: Most of the games barely even reference the prior release games, and they usually make it unnecessary to play the games beforehand due to having a synopsis of the prior games (like MGS1 having synopses of MG and MG2, and MGS2 having a synopsis of MGS1), so your explanation about how MPO doesn't add anything doesn't really work, since literally none of the games save for MGS4 possibly actually added anything under what seems to be your definition.