Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4913740-20130628164607/@comment-1672596-20130722112345

Misterbunnsy wrote: The organisation known as The Patriots basically has nothing to do with the Philosophers, apart from being a similar group (in control of society from behind closed doors). The Patriots are what Zero forms.

And the Philosophers themselves are confusing. There's the Wisemen's Committee, who formed the Philosophers and by MGS3, the original Wisemen's Committee is dead, but the Philosophers are an organisation made up of the three superpowers in the world: USA, USSR and China. I think Paz is not a triple agent, she only double-crosses MSF for Cipher, AKA The Patriots, who are formed by the time of Peace Walker.

As for Camp Omega, Cipher has a lot of influence by the time of The Phantom Pain. So there's no guarantee that they can't arrange for XOF to visit Camp Omega. Don't forget that she also acted as a formal agent of the CIA and the KGB yet also being implied to have stabbed them in the back.

And I should point out that the ending timeline and post-ending call indicated that the Patriots were the revived American branch of the Philosophers founded by the DCI with the Philosophers' Legacy (although that obviously changed when Kojima decided to have Zero be the founder and dismantle the Philosophers for whatever reason).