Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-26935237-20150909030815/@comment-64.33.250.214-20151125140639

173.152.21.100 wrote: Why are people still making such a big deal out of this? People can't accept that homosexuals/bisexuals can be as masculine as heterosexuals? What's wrong with falling in love with the same sex? This is for brave men, fangirls/women, fanboys/men, and open minded(like Kojima) people alike. As you can tell, Kojima doesn't discriminate characters when it comes to gender, sexualities, race, etc. It's much like the codec conversation Sigint has with Naked Snake in MGS3 where he tells Snake no one would hire him but Zero, and that they grew a good bond together since he was accepted for who he was, not what race he was. Anyway, Everyone is involved in some way and somehow. And I believe every Metal Gear character is likable in their own way. They all have their own personalities. Many games do not have what the Metal Gear series possesses, and that's definitely characters with different personalities. I suggest all you close minded players accept the fact there are all types in this franchise that is Metal Gear, because I know no other game will be as emotionally strong as this one.

Also, to those of you who say Big Boss is completely straight, think again. Even the legend can be a little bi-curious. He is human, after all. One evidence is if you have the game Peace Walker, play the "Rescue Chico" mission, and when you get to the blue doors, there is an optional scene where if you pick a door that Chico isn't hiding in, it will instead have Big Boss peek in and observe a man in the shower and going "oooooooh" in an aroused fashion with the man being watched asking in alarm who is out there, then Big Boss backs off when he is spotted. You might get a chuckle out of this one, actually.

And I am sorry, person who says Ocelot is demisexual. I'd definitely agree if that was the case, but torture does sexually turn him on - whether it involves a woman or a man. Ocelot admits to Big Boss in MGS3 after he gets tortured by Volgin that he learned something from all that and became so fascinated with it. In MGS... Well, trigger word, Ocelot does do some inappropriate things to Meryl as part of torturing her. He has sexual attraction to men and women, but Big Boss is always on his mind.

Open-minded like Kojima? Nearly all of his characters are hyper-masculine men and overly-sexualized women. It's difficult for him to write the trials of ordinary life, as when he attempts to it often comes across as melodrama like we saw in Raiden and Rose's relationship. Sigint and Drebin fall under what's called the "magical negro" trope. They provide support for the main (white) character in way of advice and little else.

Women and minorities in Metal Gear serve primarily as supporting cast. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's nowhere near as politically correct as other franchises of the day, where you can play as gay or female characters.

What does being human have to do with being bisexual? Humans, for the most part, have preferences. Whether they are born with it or learn it through life. Some are straight, some are gay, some swing both ways, but not everyone is bi.

Optional scenes don't count as part of the main story. If they can be avoided, they bear no significance to character development. Even if there's a mini-game where you can have Big Boss and Kaz pound it out inside a cardboard box, it only reflects the player's choices and is played for laughs. That's all down to your preference.

Sadism and sex are not mutually exclusive. Consensual BDSM is not the same as torturting someone for interrogation purposes. There are different thought processes involved. UFC fighters for example may enjoy their sport, but that doesn't mean they get aroused by it.

If Ocelot derived sexual gratification from torture, it would be more obvious. Like he'd rub his nibbles or talk dirty, which I've never seen him do. His sadistic tendencies were even toned down in Phantom Pain. When Kaz tortured Quiet with water, Ocelot didn't look like he had a hard on. What he later says in MGS1 about having his way with Meryl, which was only added in the English dub, could have simply been a psychological scare tactic.

There's very little evidence of Ocelot's sexual orientation, or any sign of sexual attraction to Big Boss. It's possible he could love Big Boss romantically, but not sexually.