Board Thread:Metal Gear Solid V/@comment-86.45.17.40-20150909104026/@comment-86.45.17.40-20150910095601

To 0nighthawk0: You're right - I started to go mad a bit there at the end. I just thought the involvement of Quiet was interesting. I could be going mad.

To Adachi Did It: Apologies if any of the links don't work. They all work for me for some reason. I'm pretty sure I've reposted all of the links that that Reddit post linked to. I can't remember if he said anything especially interesting. It was some of the stuff in the thread that caught my eye as well. Apologies again for that.

I just want to add 4 more points:

First, the removal of David Hayter from all of the promotional material of MGSV seems like an echo of the removal of Kojima from all of the promotional material by Konami. The 1984 link is what ties this together, as one of the main themes of the book is the removal of people from history and the control of "truth" and information.

Second, the game is subtitled "The Phantom Pain". A common reaction to the game's story is the sense that much of it is missing (either "cut out" or the game was prematurely released). This is a kind of "phantom pain". The phrase "phantom pain" already refers to Venom's lost arm and the idea that Venom is a phantom of Big Boss who undergoes much pain during MGSV. In MGS2, "S3" referred to, amongst other things, "Solid Snake Simulation", "Selection for Societal Sanity" and Solidus Snake being the third Snake. Kojima said that game was partially inspired by "The New York Trilogy" by Paul Auster and "Kangaroo Notebook" by Kobo Abe. I have both books and have read the former and part of the latter. To cut a long story short, both books have multi-layered plots, especially the former, with everything not as it seems. Kojima seems to be an exponent of that kind of story-telling. I would argue that, despite the big twist, MGSV feels incomplete in that sense. The main point here is the "phantom pain" reference to a gamer's feeling of the MGSV's story being incomplete.

Third, someone said that MGSV is like a TV series in the way that previous games have been like movies. I think the guy was right, but more right than he thought. I think the main content for MGSV will be released over time in an episodic manner (which won't cost any extra money, hopefully!) and people won't fully understand what it's about until the end of the "series", much like a real TV series.

Fourth, I think the main theme of MGSV (By the way, why the change to Roman numerals? It could be nothing, but I have a feeling it isn't. One of the guys above in my links said that MGS5 will be released after the episodes finish. I don't know what that means.) will be not knowing what to believe. I think it already is even at this stage, but it will become even more so if anything happens after tomorrow. Again, this is a reference to the 1984 link. I can't believe I had forgotten that MGSV was set partially during 1984.

The main reason I'm posting any of this is that MGSV's story seems TOO shallow. I believe Kojima (ironically) when he says this time is the last time. I think he's not the kind of guy to go out with a relative whimper considering the story and promotion is something he is most passionate about. (At the moment, MGSV has a FFXII ring to it. Great gameplay, best of the series, but forgettable story.) The great thing about all of this is that it'll be all over tomorrow. If nothing happens tomorrow, I'm completely wrong and have completely overthought a situation where a company fell out with its employee which resulted in some compromises with the project of that employee. It's not long to wait.

On a final note, and I'll be a bit busy for the next 2 days so I probably won't be able to post much else until 0120 on 12/9/15 BST (or GMT, I can't remember which is in force now), if any of this stuff that I've brought up comes true, here are my predictions: I don't think "V Has Come To" refers to just Venom Snake. I think a considerable amount of the stories of all games chronogically after MGSV will be rewritten using the theme of not believing any one source of information. (I was about to say something about The Medic, but I just realized that that would require Venom Snake being four people at once. I think that's a step too far.) (By the way, here are some predictions that come from those other sources: Gray Fox is Zero's son (I'm not sure if that's an old one); Liquid Snake will be a major character going forward; a sixth AI, called "Vith" which "V Has Come To" also refers to, will make an appearance and war with the other 5 for control over information and "truth"; the six aborted clones of Big Boss and Solidus' twin will play a major part going forward; the original Dr. Naomi Hunter will have played a part in how all of this stuff started; mental illness is the big taboo that Kojima was referring to when he said that MGSV would tackle a big taboo, with the gamer's sense of not knowing what to believe with MGSV being a reference to that. To be honest, I don't know how much of this is old hat (probably all of it), but that's a summary of the stuff that's caught my eye.) (I actually feel embarrassed at posting some of that stuff. I'm having second thoughts now, haha!) A final two points: as I said in my original post on MGSV's plot, I was shocked at the Body Double Theory being on the ball. I was someone who dismissed all of that "Gray Fox is Venom Snake" and "Chico is Quiet" stuff as nonsense, but the core idea was spot on. The "Big Boss - The Medic - Ishmael" triangle had been cracked a long time ago, but I dismissed it as nonsense. Now, I know either PythonSelkan or YongYea, to be honest I've never watched any of their videos, was involved in spreading "The Body Double Theory". If that was right, maybe some of this other shite is? Again, the main reason I'm saying this is because it feels like we only got a finger of MGS5's story and we're missing the rest of the body. The second point is that a lot of these sources of information are similar in fundamental theme but discordant in detail. That kind of ties in to the idea of disinformation which again references 1984 and the control of "truth". Maybe that's the idea? Maybe they're all right but slightly wrong? Again, the great thing about all of this is that it's over in a day and 15 hours. (I feel late to the party with this as well, haha.)

I'm going to finish with something mad: someone mentioned how the Russian radios in MGSV talk about the threatened hike in interest rates by the Federal Reserve planned for this month. With the references to 9/11, I read an article this week that said that much of the east coast of the USA will be vulnerable due to "military practices" up until October 1. I think MGSV will be a phenomenon that partially encompasses and references real life, if anything happens in 1 day and 15 hours. I think there's a possibility that the Kojima-Konami spat and the removal of David Hayter were ruses, if something happens in 39 hours' time. I think when Kojima said that he'd do something that can only be done with video games with MGSV (I don't think anything in MGSV currently qualifies as such at the moment, at least nothing original), I think he was referring to the game actually evolving and changing over time. How would he do that? You've got me there. How big would a patch have to be to do that? I don't know.

I'm exhausted. And probably all over nothing, haha! In advance, I'd like to humbly apologize if I'm wrong for wasting everyone's time. That really wasn't my intention. Something, to me, feels odd with MGSV, not just the game's story but the Kojima and Hayter situations too. (That Ground Zeroes mission where you literally do what Konami started doing a few months later is, in my opinion, too far-fetched. It seems strange that Konami would keep it in, if they were planning to do that very thing only a little while later. Before you shoot me, yes, my view is odds-on to be bullshit, but it's only 39 hours.) If you've read through all this shite, apologies for the length and the highly dubious content. I think it's only 38 hours now. Anyway, thanks very much for reading. Much love and many kind blessings to everyone.

(PS: I think Silent Hills could also be involved. I read something from one of those guys upstairs that I linked to that sounded like the story of the father in PT. Apologies again if nothing happens in 39 hours.)